Windshield is delaminating

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freak

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My Murray fordor windshield glass is delaminating. It's creeping in about 2" around the edges. I assume there is no fixing it and the only solution is to replace the glass? What is a good source for glass and how hard is it to replace?
 
Sander`s in Vancouver Washington 1800 468 4323 ask for Joe. they some but not all of the bugs for the month of your glass.
 
your closest Model A supplier is Snyders, but I do not see glass in their catalog. One that does list glass is Brattons. If you are wanting as original looking as possible, they can etch the correct bug into the glass.
http://brattons.com/prodtype.asp?PT...geHistory=cat&strKeywords=&strSearchCriteria=.

I got mine from Berts in Denver. Good service, better price.

http://parts.modelastore.com/show_Product.asp?ID=6012

as long as you are considering new glass, read this
http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/craiglewisglass.htm

bear in mind, original Ford glass was usually thinner than the 1/4 inch available now. You will need thin windshield setting rubber.

a good local glass man can do it all for you with much less stress than you will encounter doing it yourself, unless you love a challenge.
 
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Saunder's is top notch. Or Chris Blatty's shop. Have dealt with both and I recommend either.
 
pat in Santa Cruz said:
your closest Model A supplier is Snyders, but I do not see glass in their catalog. One that does list glass is Brattons. If you are wanting as original looking as possible, they can etch the correct bug into the glass.
http://brattons.com/prodtype.asp?PT...geHistory=cat&strKeywords=&strSearchCriteria=.

I got mine from Berts in Denver. Good service, better price.

http://parts.modelastore.com/show_Product.asp?ID=6012

as long as you are considering new glass, read this
http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/craiglewisglass.htm

bear in mind, original Ford glass was usually thinner than the 1/4 inch available now. You will need thin windshield setting rubber.

a good local glass man can do it all for you with much less stress than you will encounter doing it yourself, unless you love a challenge.
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What are the "bugs" that need etched?
 
This here is a Ford Motor Company Glass "Bug." It is the little manufacturing etching made on the glass when it is produced. This one is from my 1937 Ford. The bug says 11-36, which means that the glass was produced by Ford in November of 1936. When I had my windshield cut by Saunder's, they etched the exact same bug in my new glass.
 

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freak said:
My Murray fordor windshield glass is delaminating. It's creeping in about 2" around the edges. I assume there is no fixing it and the only solution is to replace the glass? What is a good source for glass and how hard is it to replace?
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How fast is it creeping? I have had old cars with delamination in the glass that did not get any worse in the number of years that I had them. Sometimes the take a decade to creep an inch.
 
pat in Santa Cruz said:
your closest Model A supplier is Snyders, but I do not see glass in their catalog. One that does list glass is Brattons. If you are wanting as original looking as possible, they can etch the correct bug into the glass.
http://brattons.com/prodtype.asp?PT...geHistory=cat&strKeywords=&strSearchCriteria=.

I got mine from Berts in Denver. Good service, better price.

http://parts.modelastore.com/show_Product.asp?ID=6012

as long as you are considering new glass, read this
http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/craiglewisglass.htm

bear in mind, original Ford glass was usually thinner than the 1/4 inch available now. You will need thin windshield setting rubber.

a good local glass man can do it all for you with much less stress than you will encounter doing it yourself, unless you love a challenge.
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I'm surprised... the glass is actually much cheaper than I thought it would be. I imagined around $500.
 
QGolden said:
How fast is it creeping? I have had old cars with delamination in the glass that did not get any worse in the number of years that I had them. Sometimes the take a decade to creep an inch.
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Even if it never creeped any further I don't like the look of it.
 
Delamination eventually happens with safety plate glass. I had it begin to happen on door glass bought from a popular model A vender within two years.
 
I think, although can not back it up, that Flat Windshields are more prone to it. I say that because I have had old windshields that were curved discolor and "fog" at the edges, but only have had Flat windshields bubble and delaminate.
 
Maybe the flat glass made back then and even today is made using lesser standards or lesser technology that what a major automotive glass maker uses.
 
I don't think "lesser" necessarily (at least not in a negative sense of the word).

I think the process is just different. I can picture where the windshield is curved, that the bond to the plastic layer would be different than a flat glass. The actual heat and working the glass to curve it could change the properties of the bond.
 
Could be. I was thinking about special polymers or processes that smaller shops may not have access to.
 
I knew a guy that cut flat safety plate glass back in the sixties. After cutting the glass, he poured alcohol (I think) on the fresh cut edges and lit it off. It would burn off quickly and helped seal the edges so as to prevent delamination. It seemed to work good, some may not do it that way now days.
 
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