Our '29 Special was a complete (together), running vehicle when we brought it from MI to DE, and DMV said they needed to see the number to verify the information on the title. That began the process to find the frame stamp.. which led to the decision to begin restoration, after-all, driver side was already off.! Never did find the complete number.. but DMV gave us a nice VIN stamp for our door-frame.! At least I drove it from the car trailer to the garage..