Good information.Old retired men sometimes open their mouth when they shouldn’t, so here we go.
Model A’s don’t need thermostats. They were not designed for a thermostat.
They use a syphon driven cooling system. The water pump is mounted at the out flow unlike newer cars. The water pump really only helps cooling at higher speeds. Up until the late 50’s, thermostats would be removed by many newer car owners in the summer months to increase flow of coolant.
Thermostats used in a Model A, that are installed without a by pass, could create a problem with your water pump.
Potential for oil flash on cylinder walls and hot spots with boiling.
The higher you are above sea level, the more likely you could see a problem with boiling.
Even a 160 degree thermostat might not be fully open until coolant reaches +180 degrees.
Google “Rocky Mountain Model A Club Cooling System Seminar ” good info.
Sorry if my comments offend anyone. I feel very strongly on a couple of things that have to do with these cars and a thermostat is one of them. Enjoy.
Old retired men sometimes open their mouth when they shouldn’t, so here we go.
Model A’s don’t need thermostats. They were not designed for a thermostat.
They use a syphon driven cooling system. The water pump is mounted at the out flow unlike newer cars. The water pump really only helps cooling at higher speeds. Up until the late 50’s, thermostats would be removed by many newer car owners in the summer months to increase flow of coolant.
Thermostats used in a Model A, that are installed without a by pass, could create a problem with your water pump.
Potential for oil flash on cylinder walls and hot spots with boiling.
The higher you are above sea level, the more likely you could see a problem with boiling.
Even a 160 degree thermostat might not be fully open until coolant reaches +180 degrees.
Google “Rocky Mountain Model A Club Cooling System Seminar ” good info.
Sorry if my comments offend anyone. I feel very strongly on a couple of things that have to do with these cars and a thermostat is one of them. Enjoy.
The ONLY time you DON'T need a thermostat, is if you have a crummy Old Radiator that quickly warms up, on its' OWN!
Remember, the engine is a water HEATER, the radiator is a water COOLER & a thermostat is needed, to co-ordinate the workings of the two systems!
Hope that is SIMPLE enough to be understood!
Early thermostats were prone to failures, that why Henry didn't use them, until some design upgrades made them somewhat MORE RELIABLE. He should have left a NOTE about it, on his Office Wall!
Bill Simple
Cant open the file, was interested in what is written.Here is some scientific information that may help you decide if you will use a thermostat or not. Pages 10, 11 and 12 give some info on heat transfer and page 36 explains how coolant move in engines designed to use thermostat and those not designed for thermostats.
Great presentation.
file:///C:/Users/Test User/Document...Cooling_System_Seminar_Presentation_Final.pdf
Cant open the file, was interested in what is written.