I got my side curtains for my roadster from L/B approx 15 years ago.. still good shape. HOWEVER, YOU ALMOST NEED A INSTRUMENT RATING TO DRIVE WITH THEM INSTALLED! last summer I took the door curtains to a local shop that make boat tops, covers, etc and using my side curtains as patterns, he made a pair that were all clear vinyl with a border just wide enough to install all the hardware. Not pretty to look at, but at least I can see out.. If I get caught in the rain, no big deal now.