Newbie ?'s

tyler

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I'm new to all this model A stuff but have been playing with T's for a few years now and have a few ?'s.

I'm getting ready to tear into my A, a '28 Tudoor that's been sitting in a barn for a very long time (and looks it). I'm not concerned with the body, just going to keep it looking like it just came out of the barn but I want to go through the entire front end, all the brakes and the steering box. Probably rewire it , too. It runs good but the bearings need to be tightened up some and hopefully there's plenty of babbitt left, if not then the engines coming out and will get redone.

My questions right now are: Rear wheel bearings, I know with the T's, the original Hyats are much better than the solid roller repros. Is it the same with the A's and if so how hard is it to find good, original bearings and what should the rollers mike? Are the repro cast iron drums of good quality?

I've always heard that model A wheels were a dime a dozen and modelT wire wheels were scarce, hence the adapters to make A wheels fit on T's. Since owning this A, my experience is that '28- 29 wheels are hard to find in good shape and bring more than T wheels, at least on the popular auction site. I need to replace all my wheels and it looks like it's going to be an expensive proposition. You guys are more familiar with this stuff than I am, is this true from you perspectives?

That's all for now, like I said, I'm just starting this project and I'm sure I'll have more questions as I get into it. Oh, and I did change all the fluids before I attempted to start or run the car, even pulled the pan and cleaned it out. I was supprised at how clean things were and at the lack of sludge or metal fragments in eng, trans. and rearend. Transmission and rearend don't seem to be noisey when driving, either.
Thanks in advance

Tyler
 
Hi Tyler, welcome to the Model A world. If you have an early 28 the wheels are different and shouldn't be mixed with the later 28 and 29 wheels. I've found the 28/29 wheels to still be plentiful in fleamarkets, the main thing to look out for is rot out on the inside of the bead and bent spokes. Look out also for cracks in the inner hub and worn out lug holes. Check for excessive run out by mounting the wheel on one of the front drums and spinning, up to 1/8" runout should be ok. After finding good wheels I send them out for sandblasting and powdercoating.
 
If you don't mind not being 100% correct you can use 16 inch wheels from 32-35 fords. Not sure about anything after that. I have 35 wheels on mine and like the look and ride but mine is a driver and not a show car. By the way, in this picture my landau irons are on upside down. The guys that put the top on messed up. I have since change them to the right way.
 

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If you don't mind not being 100% correct you can use 16 inch wheels from 32-35 fords. Not sure about anything after that. I have 35 wheels on mine and like the look and ride but mine is a driver and not a show car. By the way, in this picture my landau irons are on upside down. The guys that put the top on messed up. I have since change them to the right way.

George, are you of the opinion that your idea would be cheaper for him than finding good 21" wheels?
 
Welcome to the Model A family. I think you will find this a friendly helpful group. Your thinking is correct regarding the rear wheel bearings. The repros don't hold up well, better to find good originals. The parts for the front end and brakes are available from various parts suppliers. MACs is in New York, Bratton's in MD, Snyder's in Ohio so all pretty close to you. When looking for original stuff Bert's in Denver, CO is a good place. They might have the wheels you need.

Always good to hear of an A coming out of the barn and someone talking about driving one. We try to encourage folks to drive the cars. If you see the Model A Times folks at a meet or show stop in and say hello.
 
I want to stick with originality so 21" it's going to be. The car was made in August of '28 and has some AR features but the wheels isn't one of them. Left hand parking brake, mushroom shift knob, red steering wheel, mult. disc clutch, early starter switch and probably some other stuff I haven't noticed yet. http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10372 . Hope the link works, never tried that before. Thanks for the help, anymore questions or comments welcome.
Tyler
 
If your car has LEFT hand E-brake, then it should also have the early wheels, commonly called AR wheels. Someone may have changed hubs so the later wheels could be used. My 9-27-28 has the hole for a lefthand brake handle, but it has a plate screwed over it, and has the E-brake handle in front of the gear shift.
 
32 had 18" and 33/34s had 17". I had 17's on my roadster for a while and they just don't look right on a model A, also harder to mount and take off.
 
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