New Zenith 13922 Report

JOES31

Senior Member
Since I had so much problem getting a "professionally" rebuilt Zenith I ordered this Zenith 13922 for the car because of some of the comments I saw on the Barn. User seemed to like them. I thought I would share my experience and thoughts on this carburetor.

I installed it this morning and yes it works better than any old Zenith. The Tilitson runs much better than the old Zeniths but this one hits the mark. Granted it is not original and looks modern but the performance is far better than the other carbs and I am willing to give up the "look" for a well running engine.

I am not looking to hot rod a Model A engine. That would be ridiculous. If I wanted a hot rod I would go with an Offy, Cotsworth, or small block and build it to 650 stallions and have to change everything from brakes to rear end. My goal is a well running mostly stock reliable Model A. This carburetor fits this bill nicely.

It is an easy install. The only thing you have to be careful about is the throttle lever setting. It takes a bit to get it to adjust properly from complete idle to full throttle. The idle mixture screw actually works unlike some Zeniths. The high speed (GAV) is easy to adjust but takes a few times to get it right. Once set you're done. No GAV to play with inside the car. The GAV rod is just used for the choke.

Throttle response is remarkably improved as is acceleration and idle. You can idle it down to nothing and there is no hint of a stall at a stop. I can't believe how much smoother this makes the engine run.

At the end of the day this is a great carburetor to run on a Model A. It's specs seem to match well for the demand of a stock A engine. For the driver it is the best of all I have used, but I am fairly new to the A. If I want to show the car I can put one of my Zeniths on in ten minutes. I don't have a points car but still a nicely restored A that I am almost finished with.

The only down sides are the look which somewhat resembles a Tilitson and you cannot use the Airmaze or Hi Boy air cleaners as the throat is smaller than an old Zenith. There is an insert adapter that presses on to the throat that I ordered. It costs $20.00 plus shipping. That will allow me to use my High Boy with the K&N. The Carb is $275.00 plus shipping. I think I paid $292.00 total. It's well worth the extra 90 or 110 bucks with the filter adapter for this carb over a rebuilt Zenith.

Joe

ZENITH MODEL 13922
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Hey thanks for the update. I am still amazed that you had so many problems with the Zenith and getting one rebuilt. The are really simple to work on and adjust. I must say that even with the modern look of the 13922 it still looks better than the Weber set up. I would be interested to see how they preform in comparison. I currently run the Weber and to be honest DON'T really like the look or the fact I have to run a fuel pump. I DO like the performance of it though so for that reason I just keep the hood closed and try not to look at it too much.

Glad you finally got you issue resolved with the other vendor and I hope it get addressed on that end so no one else has a problem in the future.
 
Thank You for the update. I will be picking up my "new" A in about a week and have been told that I need to have the carb rebuilt. I think I'm going to opt for the 13922.
 
I would hope rebuild parts will remain available for that carb for the next 50 years,I pretty sure they will for the zenith,been messing with A's since 1961.
 
A PROPERLY REBUILT original Zenith will run just as good as your new carb.
The trouble is many people think that, take it apart, wash, paint and put in a kit is a rebuild. There is much more to a PROPER REBUILD.

AGREE
and the look of that carb kills it for me
your happy it runs great that's what matters
 
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A PROPERLY REBUILT original Zenith will run just as good as your new carb.
The trouble is many people think that, take it apart, wash, paint and put in a kit is a rebuild. There is much more to a PROPER REBUILD.


And if you want to be picky the "new" carb dyno'ed at 1 HP lower then a stock original Zenith.
 
Well 1930coupe,
I tried 3 "professionally" rebuilt carbs and they leaked and ran terrible. So maybe these "professional" rebuilders shouldn't be rebuilding these carbs. The ones I rebuilt ran much better than the ones I had rebuilt.

The old zenith is a pretty basic carb to work on. If I can squeeze another six ponies out of a Thunder series AVS Edelbrock I think I can handle the Zenith.

I can safely say the inherent design of the Zenith does not lend itself to atomizing nor metering the fuel as a more modern carburetor does. It's the same as going from a modern carb to a port injection system. There is no comparison. But heck that was the technology of the day back then.

So far everyone that says they tried one loves it. Sort of speaks for itself.

Like Mitch said the look kills it for him. I have to agree. It looks like something one would find on a lawn mower or generator. But in the end it performs heads and tails better than its Great Grandfather.

One HP difference is negligible. You can see different HP with a small change in the ambient temperature and humidity. Again I am not squeezing HP. I am looking for a smooth reliable engine.
 
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A PROPERLY REBUILT original Zenith will run just as good as your new carb.
The trouble is many people think that, take it apart, wash, paint and put in a kit is a rebuild. There is much more to a PROPER REBUILD.

And I 100% agree with 1930 Coupe !!:D
 
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