Negative Battery Shut-Off

rfitzpatrick

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I understand the correct way to install the battery shut-off. However, has there ever been a fire cause by the shut-off being on the negative battery terminal?
Has the 'incorrect' installation been the cause?
This fire not due to an accident -- nor fuel leaks
 
Yes,and twice in front of my garage.One was an A roadster that the guy was having funky electrical problems crop up.He parked about 100 feet away from my garage,and we heard some weird snapping and hissing.Then a big bang.The battery had blown up.He had a cutoff switch mounted in the hot side on the firewall.The hot cable had the strands break away over time,and finally pulled out when he drove it here.He had shut it off when he got out of the car.The car didn't burn,but that loose cable kicked itself around trying to arc weld itself to anything it touched.On the same spot I saw a JD 40 crawler touch itself off from the same thing.The owner had made himself a nice bracket with the switch on it and bolted it to a protected spot under the edge of the hood.Too many times of churning that engine over with a low battery finally melted the plastic parts,and the hot cable dropped out of the switch.The steel fuel line was right under the switch,and the cable and the cable tried to weld itself to that steel line.It was off to the races after that.We just stood there and watched it burn.That 1/4 inch fuel line fed that fire until it just petered out.
 
i prefer to put the night switch on the positive/ground. as that will insure all the power to the car is shut off.

as far as a fire due to the switch on the negative, who knows? but, there probably has been sparks when a wench touched the cable and the body of the car.

there is diagrams out there that show either way. just your choice.
 
What timing! Yesterday I just finished reading the historical ford barn forums on this very topic. I was ambivalent on how to proceed but I think I am persuaded by these posts today ....so "thankyou!"

I hope I am not derailing this thread with my first post. Please ignore me if I am violating rules but my follow-up question is where to mount the ground-side cutoff switch.

My car is 6v positive ground. I currently have a cutoff switch mounted on a plate attached where the starter is bolted onto the frame. One side of the cutoff switch is wired to the negative pole of the battery. The other side of the cutoff switch is wired to the starter switch. This is a reasonable situation for access to the cutoff switch under the hood and routing of wires under the floor board. Inconvenient but otherwise ok ...until I move the cutoff switch to the ground side of the battery.

Are there good/safe/convenient options to mount this cutoff switch inside? in-front of the seat on the floor?
 
What timing! Yesterday I just finished reading the historical ford barn forums on this very topic. I was ambivalent on how to proceed but I think I am persuaded by these posts today ....so "thankyou!"

I hope I am not derailing this thread with my first post. Please ignore me if I am violating rules but my follow-up question is where to mount the ground-side cutoff switch.

My car is 6v positive ground. I currently have a cutoff switch mounted on a plate attached where the starter is bolted onto the frame. One side of the cutoff switch is wired to the negative pole of the battery. The other side of the cutoff switch is wired to the starter switch. This is a reasonable situation for access to the cutoff switch under the hood and routing of wires under the floor board. Inconvenient but otherwise ok ...until I move the cutoff switch to the ground side of the battery.

Are there good/safe/convenient options to mount this cutoff switch inside? in-front of the seat on the floor?
It is different for different models, what do you have?

This is the switch on my Coupe:

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Marine chandleries sell disconnect switches that disconnect both sides of the battery. Expensive, but it would eliminate some worry.

The new LiPo batteries have a small button on top that will disconnect the battery with the internal circuitry. The internal circuitry is needed for the battery management system that is built into the LiPo battery.
 
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