Manifold heater bracket
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Pat Martone
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I am hoping for guidance on this subject too.
I have a standard exhaust manifold, without the waffle "thing" on top.
I also have a cast iron Autolite heater that sits perfectly on top of, and was apparently made for, the non-waffle type, stock, exhaust manifold.
Although it sits nicely on top, I am afraid it will bounce around and was wondering how it was originally secured to the stock exhaust.
(This is not the same Autolite heater that bolts via two bolts, onto the top of the waffle-type exhaust manifold.)
Right now I have secured it with bailing wire which doesn't look very nice but is functional.
Any advice is welcome.
Thank you.
I have a standard exhaust manifold, without the waffle "thing" on top.
I also have a cast iron Autolite heater that sits perfectly on top of, and was apparently made for, the non-waffle type, stock, exhaust manifold.
Although it sits nicely on top, I am afraid it will bounce around and was wondering how it was originally secured to the stock exhaust.
(This is not the same Autolite heater that bolts via two bolts, onto the top of the waffle-type exhaust manifold.)
Right now I have secured it with bailing wire which doesn't look very nice but is functional.
Any advice is welcome.
Thank you.
Gar,
I do not have it here at home so I am not sure of the brand name. It is the style as shown in Bratton's (Part #13660) for the standard, not the Auto-Lite waffle style manifold. The bracket is the bottom bracket that attaches to the #2 manifold stud. A long "L" shaped shaft fits on it and the shaft bolts through the top bracket to clamp the heater to the manifold.
Bill
I do not have it here at home so I am not sure of the brand name. It is the style as shown in Bratton's (Part #13660) for the standard, not the Auto-Lite waffle style manifold. The bracket is the bottom bracket that attaches to the #2 manifold stud. A long "L" shaped shaft fits on it and the shaft bolts through the top bracket to clamp the heater to the manifold.
Bill
Pat,
If there is a bolt hole in the top, it probably attaches with two brackets and a long "L" shape shaft. I can send you instructions if you want but you may need to make the brackets and shaft if you do not have them. I can't send until the weekend since they are with my car at my weekend place.
If there is a bolt hole in the top, it probably attaches with two brackets and a long "L" shape shaft. I can send you instructions if you want but you may need to make the brackets and shaft if you do not have them. I can't send until the weekend since they are with my car at my weekend place.
Pat Martone
Senior Member
bigmaxum,
Thanks in advance for providing the instructions.
I recall there might be a single bolt hole on top of my Autolite manifold cover, but not 2 of them like on the type of Autolite manifold cover that fits on top of the waffle-type exhaust manifold.
I wonder if the waffle-type Autolite set-up produces a lot more heat to the interior of the car, compared to the non-waffle-type Autolite cover that I have?
If I really want a good supply of heat for my Fordor, should I be looking for a waffle-type exhaust manifold with matching Autolitle cover or is the one I have good enough?
Thanks in advance for providing the instructions.
I recall there might be a single bolt hole on top of my Autolite manifold cover, but not 2 of them like on the type of Autolite manifold cover that fits on top of the waffle-type exhaust manifold.
I wonder if the waffle-type Autolite set-up produces a lot more heat to the interior of the car, compared to the non-waffle-type Autolite cover that I have?
If I really want a good supply of heat for my Fordor, should I be looking for a waffle-type exhaust manifold with matching Autolitle cover or is the one I have good enough?
john in illinois
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I am having trouble with pics. but I just use a hose clamp around heater and manifold. I will not loosen a headbolt to put on a heater.
john in illinois
Well-known member
Thanks for the pic. One of our club members used a similar setup but put the clamp on the manifold then the heater on top with a bolt from the clamp through the hole in the top of the heater.
The bracket I want to use goes on the mainifold stud, not the head. The top bracket just rests on the head bolt. I would not want to mess with the head bolt either.
The bracket I want to use goes on the mainifold stud, not the head. The top bracket just rests on the head bolt. I would not want to mess with the head bolt either.
Aerocraft
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John has the best suggestion in my opinion.
Autolite had two similar types of covers. The one for the "waffle" manifold was attached with two bolts whereas the Autolite cover that went over the stock manifold used a short plate that went under a head stud nut in order to retain the cover. It has been my experience that the waffle manifold heater does a much better job of heating the closed cars. That type is what I have on my Coupe and Town Sedan and my wife is happy with the heat, even in the coldest weather since we drive both cars all winter. Gar Williams
Autolite had two similar types of covers. The one for the "waffle" manifold was attached with two bolts whereas the Autolite cover that went over the stock manifold used a short plate that went under a head stud nut in order to retain the cover. It has been my experience that the waffle manifold heater does a much better job of heating the closed cars. That type is what I have on my Coupe and Town Sedan and my wife is happy with the heat, even in the coldest weather since we drive both cars all winter. Gar Williams
Gar,
Gar, Thanks for the input.
My heater is not for a waffle style manifold and the bracket does not attach using a head stud nut but rather the manifold stud nut. It is the one shown in Bratton's, Part #13660. So if anyone is familiar with that heater and can provide the bracket dimensions, I am still looking for them. I may use the hose clamp temporarily or perhaps baling wire which might be more period correct.
Gar, Thanks for the input.
My heater is not for a waffle style manifold and the bracket does not attach using a head stud nut but rather the manifold stud nut. It is the one shown in Bratton's, Part #13660. So if anyone is familiar with that heater and can provide the bracket dimensions, I am still looking for them. I may use the hose clamp temporarily or perhaps baling wire which might be more period correct.
Pat Martone
Senior Member
Please see the photo of my Autolite heater manifold cover, which is cast iron and very old, but recently repainted by me.
It is covering the stock manifold and not the aftermarket waffle-type exhaust manifold. There are no mounting holes on this particular Autolite manifold cover. (I understand that the Autolite heater manifold cover that is specifically designed to be used with the waffle-type exhaust manifold can be easily bolted on.)
I have 3 questions:
1. What can I use to connect the firewall hole to the Autolite heater, since they are slight off-set from each other and about 1.5 inches apart?
Without connecting the two with some kind of metal pipe, I am not getting any heat into my car. (I have tried using aluminum foil without success.)
2. Is there a better way to secure the cover to the exhaust manifold, compared to how I did it with two pieces of wire as shown in the photo?
3. Is this particular heater configuration, without the use of a waffle-type exhaust manifold, capable of providing sufficient heat for my sedan, or is it a cheap and poor solution to using a waffle-type exhaust manifold and matching Autolite manifold heater cover?
Thank you for your assistance!
It is covering the stock manifold and not the aftermarket waffle-type exhaust manifold. There are no mounting holes on this particular Autolite manifold cover. (I understand that the Autolite heater manifold cover that is specifically designed to be used with the waffle-type exhaust manifold can be easily bolted on.)
I have 3 questions:
1. What can I use to connect the firewall hole to the Autolite heater, since they are slight off-set from each other and about 1.5 inches apart?
Without connecting the two with some kind of metal pipe, I am not getting any heat into my car. (I have tried using aluminum foil without success.)
2. Is there a better way to secure the cover to the exhaust manifold, compared to how I did it with two pieces of wire as shown in the photo?
3. Is this particular heater configuration, without the use of a waffle-type exhaust manifold, capable of providing sufficient heat for my sedan, or is it a cheap and poor solution to using a waffle-type exhaust manifold and matching Autolite manifold heater cover?
Thank you for your assistance!
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Tom Wesenberg
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For the junction you can try flexible air cleaner stove pipe used on cars from the 70's and 80's.
Aerocraft
Well-known member
If you will notice, there is a small *** on the top center of the Autolite cover. A narrow steel plate was installed under the head stud nut just aft of the #2 spark plug and spanned the distance and clamped the cover down. The plate had a hole in it matching the *** on the cover. I found a large stainless hose clamp worked better.
This type of cover does not generate anywhere near the heat put out by the waffle manifold. I even tried stuffing it full of a stainless kitchen sink scrubber to get more contact area.
I use high temperature aircraft "Aeroduct" two inch ID tubing to span the gap between the heater and the firewall.
Gar Williams
Here is a link to Aircraft Spruce to show an example of another brand of hose:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/ap/ducting.html
This type of cover does not generate anywhere near the heat put out by the waffle manifold. I even tried stuffing it full of a stainless kitchen sink scrubber to get more contact area.
I use high temperature aircraft "Aeroduct" two inch ID tubing to span the gap between the heater and the firewall.
Gar Williams
Here is a link to Aircraft Spruce to show an example of another brand of hose:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/ap/ducting.html
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