Interested in a 1930 Model A with no title
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Gunmetal blue2
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First thing find out from the DMV what you need to get a title for it. Then is it all there. Does the motor number come in the year of the car. is it worth 2500. If you have pics. post. See if there is club for Model A's in your area. can you drive it the way it is. If it needs work can you do it or can you aford to pay someone to fix it.
J Franklin
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You can have it checked out to determine if it was stolen.
pooch
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Wow, a new poster, asks one question and is told the car he is looking at is probably stolen.
BTW, welcome to the ford barn,
Dollar Bill
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Wes, welcome to the Ford Barn - Glad to have you!!
As others have said, unless there's nothing but a rusted out frame half buried in dirt it's worth the asking price in parts alone.
Mr. Franklin gave you good advice if your concern is a missing title. Your first move should be to take the engine number down to your DMV office and have them do a search. While you're there, ask about their missing title procedures.
Originally the engine and frame number were the same but it isn't unusual for the engine to have been changed over the course of its lifetime. Frame number is visible only by lifting the body.
Engine serial numbers were hand-stamped on the left hand side of the engine block, above the water inlet. The number pad is a rough cast surface and was not machined flat.
As others have said, unless there's nothing but a rusted out frame half buried in dirt it's worth the asking price in parts alone.
Mr. Franklin gave you good advice if your concern is a missing title. Your first move should be to take the engine number down to your DMV office and have them do a search. While you're there, ask about their missing title procedures.
Originally the engine and frame number were the same but it isn't unusual for the engine to have been changed over the course of its lifetime. Frame number is visible only by lifting the body.
Engine serial numbers were hand-stamped on the left hand side of the engine block, above the water inlet. The number pad is a rough cast surface and was not machined flat.
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In some states, if you have a bill of sale (having it notarized is best) you can get a title. As others have said, check with your DMV, but be aware that not everybody there is going to know the right answer, though they might think they do. Make sure you get someone in authority who knows the correct procedure. The last thing you want is to put a lot of effort and cash into something you can never title--or sell.
SeaSlugs
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Well I didnt mean to sound like a negative nancy right off the bat and guess i should have elaborated a bit, I agree with the others that $2500 is worth it in parts unless its half stuck in the dirt and a tree fell on it. I doubt its stolen but tis the day we live in now and need to be aware of it (at least once a year or so we hear about a trailer being stolen...). If its part of an estate or mixed in a family dispute does the seller even have a legal right to be selling it?
I think we all agree if you post pictures of what you are looking at a better estimate can be given...
sorry everyone that I jumped to negative conclusions - was in that thought process at the time (just got done reading the posting numbers/plates thread...)
I think we all agree if you post pictures of what you are looking at a better estimate can be given...
sorry everyone that I jumped to negative conclusions - was in that thought process at the time (just got done reading the posting numbers/plates thread...)
Cornishman
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If I saw an A near me at that price I would be over cash in hand as soon as I could. Life's a bit more complicated over here!
Tom Wesenberg
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It's like that $25 Brumfield high compression head......... you sometimes get lucky and a super deal pops up. I bought my 31 Slant Town Sedan real cheap just because the owner hated Fords.
Kevin in NJ
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anonymously contact your state dept of motor vehicles. Ask what it takes to buy an antique car from someone in state that does not have a title.
Each state handles it different. Some states might be very simple to change an antique car (newer cars are different). For example, VT was (when I bought an A there) simply send in a bill of sale. Next thing I know I had a VT tag and registration. Walked into NJ dmv and walked out with a title. I doubt VT even checked the address of the guy who sold me the car.
Each state handles it different. Some states might be very simple to change an antique car (newer cars are different). For example, VT was (when I bought an A there) simply send in a bill of sale. Next thing I know I had a VT tag and registration. Walked into NJ dmv and walked out with a title. I doubt VT even checked the address of the guy who sold me the car.
Charlie Stephens
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Did the owner (?) explain why there was no title. Sometimes that will lead to a solution. How about pictures?
Charlie Stephens
Charlie Stephens
Jacksonlll
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I think this is how you find stolen A's.
Brianfrench65
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In Massachusetts, a title is required, however I purchased a car without a title. I had the police come to my house, they checked the serial number, and provided me a document to go with my bill of sale, to bring with me to the DMV.
The DMV collected sales tax based on a table the state has, not the bill of sale value, or whichever value is higher.
My title came in the mail in about 4 weeks.
Every state is different. You have to check with your local police and DMV.
Good Luck;
The DMV collected sales tax based on a table the state has, not the bill of sale value, or whichever value is higher.
My title came in the mail in about 4 weeks.
Every state is different. You have to check with your local police and DMV.
Good Luck;
Dick Steinkamp
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Clydes 31 P/U
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Whenever I find a deal like this I put a down payment (that won't hurt too much to lose) and have them (the seller) apply for a lost title or duplicate as the case may be. That way your not trying to run the seller down to get any paper work signed that the DMV needs. I've walked away from some super deals when the seller wouldn't do this. If they can't take the time they don't want to sell it very bad, but it's an entirely different thing if you are getting it for parts