Halogen Bulbs what is need to convert IF Anything

msmaron

msmaron

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I do a LOT of night driving and wanted a brighter bulb, i have been considering these. Are these bulbs actually replacements OR do I have to get the conversion kit also??


[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica] A13007GH6_T.jpg[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica] Headlight Quartz Halogen Bulbs - 6 Volt Alternator
Code:A13007AH6
Price: $27.00
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica] Model Year: 1919 - 1934
UOM: Each
[/FONT] Quantity in Basket: none
[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]No Modifications needed. Direct replacement bulbs. A must to be able to see at night while driving.[/FONT]This is a direct replacement halogen headlight bulb. There is no modification needed to the headlight buckets. This new bulb allows you to adjust the headlights just like Henry designed them to work. You can use a generator, but an alternator is still recommended. This is a 6 volt bulb.
OR do i ALSO need this??

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica] A13027QK6_T.jpg[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica] "Complete Quartz Adapter Kit, 6 Volt"
Code:A13027QK6
Price: $90.00
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica] Model Year: 1928 - 1931
UOM: Kit
[/FONT] Quantity in Basket: none
[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]"Comes w/ sockets, bulbs, reflectors, & gaskets for both headlights. Requires alternator. Looks totally original."[/FONT]
 
Mark, contact me off-line about an alternator project James Rogers & I are working on that you would be interested in if you do this conversion.

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These bulbs require no modifications to the reflectors. The advertisement says you can use your generator but your generator and connections will need to be in good working order. I am not sure if you can focus your headlights using these. You may want to consider an alternator if you do alot of night driving and you have added more electrical accessories.
 
RonC said:
These bulbs require no modifications to the reflectors. The advertisement says you can use your generator but your generator and connections will need to be in good working order. I am not sure if you can focus your headlights using these. You may want to consider an alternator if you do alot of night driving and you have added more electrical accessories.
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Thanks and i do run and alternator, I drive to work every day and come home on the back roads in the dark and i need to be able to see better. Thanks
 
I am running the replacement bulbs that require no modification using a 30 amp alternator. Very pleased and drive allot, this year 6K next year driving from GA to Alaska and back. If you want send an e-mail off line. besch105@comcast.net
 
This spring our club tested a variety of bulbs and head light configurations. We tested the halogen lights that fit into the exiting sockets versus the regular 32 c.p. regular bulbs. With the halogens the focal point is shorter than a regular bulb so you have to figure out a way to move them forward. With 30/31 headlight buckets you can use 28/29 sockets to accomplish this. For our test, we didn’t have a light meter, however, in the opinion of the 10 people that were there, the 32 cp regular bulbs had equal to or better intensity than the halogens. The deceiving issue was that the halogens put out a whiter light so you tend to think it is better/brighter.

We did not test the other halogen setup where you have to modify the reflectors.

I bought the halogens for the test ($54), however, based on the test I am running the regular bulbs in my headlights with an alternator. I have really great lights at night even with the repo reflectors and am not sweating about the cost of a halogen bulb burning out. Personally, in my opinion, if you have a good electrical setup, the extra price of the halogens is just not worth it. Spend the money on better reflectors instead. My halogen bulbs are for sale. Good luck.
 
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30Tudor said:
in the opinion of the 10 people that were there, the 32 cp regular bulbs had equal to or better intensity than the halogens. The deceiving issue was that the halogens put out a whiter light so you tend to think it is better/brighter.

Personally, in my opinion, if you have a good electrical setup, the extra price of the halogens is just not worth it. Spend the money on better reflectors instead. My halogen bulbs are for sale. Good luck.
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VERY good information, what i as looking into was the 50w halogens, did you do any testing with those at all?, and i have orig reflectors and just want brightness as i do a lot of night driving and the whiter lights do seem to give more light,
 
msmaron said:
VERY good information, what i as looking into was the 50w halogens, did you do any testing with those at all?, and i have orig reflectors and just want brightness as i do a lot of night driving and the whiter lights do seem to give more light,
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We used the 25W halogens that mount in the original sockets. If there is a brighter version I suspect it will make a difference.
 
What condition are your reflectors in? If they are chrome plated, relpace them with silvered or aluminum oxide reflectors. (the aluminum wont oxidize) The chrome refectors only have about 60% of the reflective ability of silver!

Bill
 
In Vol 4 Issue 4 of the Model A Times we covered installing the halogen bulbs into original headlight sockets. You will need to refocus the headlights once you have the bulbs installed.
 
John LaVoy said:
In Vol 4 Issue 4 of the Model A Times we covered installing the halogen bulbs into original headlight sockets. You will need to refocus the headlights once you have the bulbs installed.
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John, do you have pdf or a copy i can see of that please. I dont get model a times..
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I will have to look at the warehouse I don't keep the old copies here. You might ask around some one local might have it. What we did was verify the light output with a light meter and take the car with the bulbs installed to a state inspection station where we were allowed to adjust the lights while attached to the machine. We were able to bring the light pattern to the one shown in the owner's manual. We drove this car at night for several months and found we were able to see the road signs etc as well as with a modern car. We also showed why you want to use this replacement rather than the ones where the socket is changed to a modern socket.
 
A few years ago I bought the complete halogen conversion kit from Bratton's with the reflectors etc. I had an alternator on the Town Sedan. I drove it a lot at night and those beams were outstanding! I could see roadside reflectors 3/4 of a mile away. Very pleased with those and the those type of halogen bulbs are $12 ea.. If you have parking bulbs in the headlights you can't use them but I had them in the cowl lamps anyway. I ran separate ground wires to the chassis because I didn't trust the grounds through the light bar.
 
Running the higher powered halogens for 3 years. You do have to move the bulbs forward, or all the light is 15 feet in front of the car.

Get used to heat in the buckets. Get some surplus wire from an Electric Range. Anything plastic will melt. Don't use the modular blocks as they melt within an hour.

Over solder the connections, and consider using a sturdy (not plastic) relay.

Much better light if you do it right.
 
msmaron said:
The bulbs are 27.00 EACH..where are they for 12.00??
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I stand corrected, they are $13 now I bought them a couple of years ago for $12. They are listed in Bratton's catalog as P/N17800. I bought a replacement in case I had a burnout but never did in three years. I since sold the car. They do draw 10 amps each so you need a 30 amp alternator.
 
roccaas said:
Running the higher powered halogens for 3 years. You do have to move the bulbs forward, or all the light is 15 feet in front of the car.

OK the Higher powered you mean??? and how did you move them forward.
I ordered the ones from Mike that are direct replacement bulbs with NO modification to what i have now. Can you explain please??


Get used to heat in the buckets. Get some surplus wire from an Electric Range. Anything plastic will melt. Don't use the modular blocks as they melt within an hour.

No i was going to solder the wire butts on them and use connectors

Over solder the connections, and consider using a sturdy (not plastic) relay.

Ok makes good sense
Much better light if you do it right.
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Much better is EXACTLY what i want, my roads are dark and un-lit and need that light but explain above please?
 
Barry B./ Ma. said:
I stand corrected, they are $13 now I bought them a couple of years ago for $12. They are listed in Bratton's catalog as P/N17800.
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ok what am i missing, all the parts houses sell halogen replacement bulbs that directly go in the sockets for 27.00....i dont see this 12.00??
 
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