was needing to put new gaskets in the intake and a keeper or half of half a one fell out, I had the intake off about 50 miles ago to install a fish carb, I had planned to take it down the freeway this weekend to the dragraces and watch.... Verdict? think the intake valve are gonna bend going 50-55 for an hour each way, I see another one has creeped up but it looks old. I dont have a way to repair
found a keeper in the intake.... verdict?
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darrylkmc
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Looks to me like you have the broken off portion of a Valve Guide half. The shouldered portion of this guide and the one coming up through into the port will still be in the valve chamber. The Valve Spring retains the Guide up against the Block. The shoulders of the guide may have been knocked off or cracked during installation. In the least this valve needs to be removed and examined. Remove the spring keeper and spring, use a valve guide tool under the open valve and push the remaining valve guide parts out and examine the valve stem, you might get lucky and be able to only replace the guide.
darrylkmc
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Questions?
In photo # 3 towards the 3-1/2" end on your ruler, does the edge look rough or broken?
In photo # 2 is this another valve where the guide is coming through the port? Are there others that appear to be coming up through the ports?
Being split, this almost has to be a broken original style valve guide. You might be able to use simple tools to remove the keepers and springs, but you really need a Valve Guide removal tool to get the guides out. That is unless they are so loose in the boss that they are falling out, or loose enough to be moving around and breaking.
In photo # 3 towards the 3-1/2" end on your ruler, does the edge look rough or broken?
In photo # 2 is this another valve where the guide is coming through the port? Are there others that appear to be coming up through the ports?
Being split, this almost has to be a broken original style valve guide. You might be able to use simple tools to remove the keepers and springs, but you really need a Valve Guide removal tool to get the guides out. That is unless they are so loose in the boss that they are falling out, or loose enough to be moving around and breaking.
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Steve Wastler
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Holy crap, man! Take another car, or fix it while it could still be any easy and affordable repair. If you have deep pockets, drive it like you stole it and put a new motor in it.....
darrylkmc
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What you are looking at is not the Keeper but part of a Valve Guide. If you look at your first photo the keepers are located at the mushroomed end of the valve (bottom of photo) holding the spring onto the valve next the the Cam Followers (Tappets or Lifters same thing) The keeper looks more like a horseshoe. If you were to take a large screwdriver, with the valve closed, you may be able to pry the spring up and push the keeper out sideways. Stay clear of the Valve Stem or you may score it. Try a small block of wood to get more leverage. Push the valve up as far as it can travel and pull the spring out. The spring is what holds the Valve Guides in place. I would be willing to bet that the guide will be loose enough to come out through the valve chamber with little effort. Then you can check to see if the Guides are loose in the block and the condition of the Valve(s). Other wise you will need a Valve Guide Tool to remove the guides, they are inexpensive and someone near you probably has one, and a Valve Spring Tool also.
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Special Coupe Frank
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Yeah; if somehow a valve keeper got up into a valve port, you've got bigger problems !
I vote with the crowd that says " fix it NOW ! "
I vote with the crowd that says " fix it NOW ! "
Special Coupe Frank
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I know it stinks to have the Ford down for repair, but the consequences could be far more expensive and time-consuming...
Not "defeat", rather "choosing wisely"...
Not "defeat", rather "choosing wisely"...
Tom Wesenberg
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This is a bit extreme and much more work than needed for a valve guide found in the intake port!
1931 flamingo
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Waiting for the "trick" posting.
Paul in CT
Paul in CT
I knew of this roadster for awhile, made a deal and bought it today, body is sold to Germany before I got home.... the chassis is what I'll use to fix the valve guides.... it has a rebuilt motor and trans, "C" head, nos waterpump, 12 volt, early juice brakes, plumbed and working, Volvo overdrive, nos springs, new 19" wheels and tires.... list goes on
