Fender well spare tires............

[31 Model A]

is there a special combination of twist and turns to removing and especially returning spare tires to the fender wells?

Cheers

 

[Mike]

Let the air out of the tire, then install wheel assembly into the well and reinflate tire.

mike

 

[31 Model A]

Let the air out of the tire, then install wheel assembly into the well and reinflate tire.

mike

and....getting it back out then?

 

[Joe K]

and....getting it back out then?

I think your supposed to let the air out - remove the spare - and then REINFLATE using your on-board factory issued tire pump.

They're being reproduced now - a good buy at about $50.

Or go to Walmart and buy at $10 Chinese plastic one. Nobody will EVER know it's stashed under your seat.

Actually, this one is not a far match from Ford's original.

Joe K

 

[CarlG]

Several years ago there was an article in the Restorer that described how to modify the spare tire carrier so that rather than studs sticking out, there was a nut welded on the back of the plate making it easier to mount the spare. You then used bolts rather than nuts to secure your tire.

I did that to mine and it really works.

 

[Charlie Stephens]

How often do you have a flat? Let the air out and carry a pump. Note that some tires fit better than others. Posts indicate Firestones seem to be a problem unless you let the air out but I like them anyway.

Charlie Stephens

 

[Roger V]

If the sidemount arm and plate as well as the fender/well are as original meaning not bent or out of alignment, a correct tire such as the current Goodyear will go in and out without deflating. I did this a year ago when I had a flat. NOW, my A's with Firestones, Universals, etc. must be deflated no matter the gyrations.

 

[MAG]

Quote: ""Let the air out of the tire, then install wheel assembly into the well and reinflate tire.""

I had this problem when Firestone (19" tires )were in the wells on my '30 Roadster and '30 Town Sedan.
I don't have that problem with Goodyear tires.
Don't have to deflate to install or remove.
I removed the carriage bolts from the mounting plates, filed the square flats slightly to allow easy insertion back into the plate, Use original lug nuts with them. Can not detect they are modified and does make the spare easier to remove.

 

[31 Model A]

I have Firestones, so the consensus is, deflate while in the fender well, remove and 'pump it up'. Thanks guys...... They were both flat when I removed them thinking they both had air leaks. Neither did but......now I know.

Cheers..............

 

[Smog Tech]

I have the same problem with my Town Sedan with Firestones. I removed the carriage bolts form the mounting plates and replaced them with regular bolts the same thread as the lug nuts. Now it looks the same on the outside with the lug nuts, but must use a wrench on the bolt head as well as a lug wrench to remove the wheel. I still must deflate the tire to get it in the fender, but when inflated it doesn't vibrate as much.

 

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

This advice above is UNREAL!!


Fix the fender!! The only reason why tires would need to be deflated or lug nut studs need to be modified is because someone 'butchered' the well installation job to start with! Do folks really think that original fender wells needed to have the tire deflated first?

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[jr-41ford]

Brent would you happen to know where I could find a print like that for the left and right front fenders of a 28-29 Tudor?

I've been wanting to trade my fenders with wheel wells for a set without, but no luck. I am planning on filling the wheel wells prior to painting them and put my spare in the rear like it was originally. Someone put these on many years ago, don't have any knowledge of why.

Thanks,

JR

 

[DougVieyra]

In 1928 thru 1931, Ford did not direct the owner to deflate the spare tire to remove it from the fender well. All tires (there were the exact size back then) were easily removed.

Today we have a goodly number of manufacturers making tires. Like a dress size, or a pant size, the number may be the same, but the size is often times NOT the same. Today's tires are generally over-sized from what was originally on the Model A.

I have several tire from the 1928-'31 period, and all easily go in and come out of the wheel well.

Firestone is especially noted for it's over-size. Lester's too; as well as others. So today we 'make adjustments' - and let the air out of the tire in order to remove many of today's manufactured tires.

Today's Model A Good Year Tires are made from the original tire/size as supplied by noted tire authority Doug Clayton. Chances are if you have a GoodYear tire, it will more easily be installed and removed from the fender wheel well.

 

[Smog Tech]

Brent I checked the dimensions of the wheel wells to your posted thumbnail and it looks the same. If someone modified the fenders for wheel wells, they did a very good job. Now did the car come from the factory with those fenders, probably not as the braces are bolted to the frame, not riveted. I tried a wheel and tire of the same size but not Firestone and it fit fine, went in and was able to remove it it fully inflated. I think the problem is the Firestone (Coker) tires. Not anxious to buy six tires, they are not very old.

 

[MAG]

My sons 30 coupe has factory welled fenders on it. ( Driver side was removed from a pickup). Goodyears work fine. Have to deflate Firestones to get them in.

 

[31 Model A]

Well, I have an assortment of reasons to explain to my assistance driver when he or she has to remove a spare and 'pump it up' before changing tires. When he or she ask why then do I have Firestone tires, I'll blame it on Mitch, he gave me a coupon, buy one get five free. It should work unless it's Mitch who's the assistant driver.

 

[Hoogah]

This advice above is UNREAL!!
Fix the fender!! The only reason why tires would need to be deflated or lug nut studs need to be modified is because someone 'butchered' the well installation job to start with! Do folks really think that original fender wells needed to have the tire deflated first?

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Yep .... according to around 90% of replies so far!!
Go the rear carrier!!

 

[Mitch//pa]

Well you should have went with the buy 4 get 2 free, goodyear coupon.
Don't blame me cause your cheap

 

[31 Model A]

Well you should have went with the buy 4 get 2 free, goodyear coupon.
Don't blame me cause your cheap

Ya Mon!!!!!!

 

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Brent I checked the dimensions of the wheel wells to your posted thumbnail and it looks the same. If someone modified the fenders for wheel wells, they did a very good job. Now did the car come from the factory with those fenders, probably not as the braces are bolted to the frame, not riveted. I tried a wheel and tire of the same size but not Firestone and it fit fine, went in and was able to remove it it fully inflated. I think the problem is the Firestone (Coker) tires. Not anxious to buy six tires, they are not very old.

What dimensions do you have because my experience has been a 19" Firestone will fit without deflating in an original well. For those that do not believe me, think about what size the Station Wagon tire originally was!!

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