F150 ****** with overdrive

Thanks again to MALAK!
I think I have everything accept a couple of the difficult parts that MALAK identified.
I still need to give Merlin a call.
In the meantime if anyone has a line on
T170-16G / D8UZ7017B, INPUT SHAFT FORD TRUCK 22T - 8-7/8” O.A.
or
T170-11D / D8UZ7B340B, 4TH GEAR (O.D.) FORD TRUCK 19T - 1978-84 IRON CASE
or alternatives to either one please give a shout.
 
Hi Carl,
On 7/15/15 you wrote:

CarlG said:
When I installed my F150 Transmission, there was absolutely no cutting of the cross member or any part of the chassis at all. It was all bolt in. The wooden floorboard had to have the cut out for the shift lever enlarged a tad since the shift lever was about 1.5 inches aft of where the stock model A was. That's all! No metal was cut or drilled.
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If you will I have a few questions. First, did yours come as a kit with everything supplied OR did you buy it piece by piece. As to the drive shaft did that have to be cut and machined? Not knowing any of this installation was a AA Bell Housing used or is all of that included with the F150? Is there anything else that had to be moved or reworked?

Thanks for your time and hope to hear from you!

If you so choose you can send it to me at: grobleski7074@gmail.com! My PM's are quite full and don't know how to save what I have which is another issue! HA! HA!

Thanks again,
Joe
 
Cape Codder said:
If you will I have a few questions. First, did yours come as a kit with everything supplied OR did you buy it piece by piece. As to the drive shaft did that have to be cut and machined? Not knowing any of this installation was a AA Bell Housing used or is all of that included with the F150? Is there anything else that had to be moved or reworked?
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1) I bought a complete kit. I did have to furnish: Radius rods, Drive Shaft, & Torque tube to the builder. Everything else was furnished.

2) The Radius rods, Drive shaft & Torque tubes that I furnished had to be shortened and machined. They were returned to me complete and ready to install.

3) The kit used an AA Bell Housing, and that was furnished, assembled to the RTS transmission, complete with pedal and e-brake supports.

4) The only thing I had to "rework" was the wood floorboard. The position of the shift lever is moved aft about 2 inches. I also bought a transmission cover plate from Snyders (part # A-35245-X) which also had to be reworked to fit, but even that is not necessary.
 
Continuing with the installation of the Tremac transmission, I have had mine for several years now, love it , but am concerned that there is no rear ****** support . The original ****** had a rubber mount to the cross frame that gave some support and damping of noises ,and probably took some load off the u joint connection. Have any of the the latest Tremac installs been supported by a mount
fabricated to address the issue ? Any information ,drawings, etc could be very helpful.
Thanks , Don
 
Don S said:
Continuing with the installation of the Tremac transmission, I have had mine for several years now, love it , but am concerned that there is no rear ****** support . The original ****** had a rubber mount to the cross frame that gave some support and damping of noises ,and probably took some load off the u joint connection. Have any of the the latest Tremac installs been supported by a mount
fabricated to address the issue ? Any information ,drawings, etc could be very helpful.
Thanks , Don
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The kit I received and installed DOES have a rear transmission support with a rubber insulator to the cross frame.
 
CarlG said:
Yes
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Carl,

Can you post current contact information? This thread has some age on it. I have a T170 (which I absolutely love) in my car, and I may eventually need some replacement parts.

Thanks.


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MALAK,

Any information how you "made" the 19t gear?
I think I am close to being down to the OD gear to build the "Goldilocks" ratio transmission to have all the parts.
Thanks again for your help.
RH
 
Anyone have a source for the service manual referenced in the Ford Garage site on this topic?
 

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MALAK,

Any information how you "made" the 19t gear?
I think I am close to being down to the OD gear to build the "Goldilocks" ratio transmission to have all the parts.
Thanks again for your help.
RH
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Well if you must know. It's not for the faint of heart. You'll need:
  1. Jeep T177, J8132401 / T170-16S
    INPUT SHAFT JEEP 19T (this will become the new 19T OD gear)
  2. A commonly available 4th OD gear (any tooth count, to be used as a donor, there are plenty of these on eBay)
  3. A lathe with carbide tooling (or a machine shop to do this work)

The Jeep input shaft is bored-out and parted off leaving only the gear and cone clutch/splines.

The donor gear is turned down producing a shouldered sleeve that is pressed into the bored-out Jeep gear.

I could have just made the sleeve but chose to use a gear as a donor because it already has the critical dimensions (length and ID) and metallurgy needed.

Here's a photo album of the process. There's a couple pics that show the bushing with a spacer washer. This was only needed as I miscalculated the depth of the shoulder on the bushing. If I made another one I'd just make the shoulder that much thicker and not need the little washer.

As a bonus, the last 3 pics show the repurposing of what was left of the Jeep input shaft. The bearing and seal areas are perfect for making a tool for driving the Model A rear axle shaft seals.

If you click on the pics to show the pic info, there are descriptions on most of the pics

https://photos.app.goo.gl/HNpewbYbRsrd3Eoe6
 
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rwh said:
Anyone have a source for the service manual referenced in the Ford Garage site on this topic?
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I think I found this online and downloaded to my PC at home. Give me a couple days to check. Probably be Thursday since I work from home that day.

Tom
 
I emailed "rwh" and told him I have a pdf file from a Ford repair manual showing all the maintenance steps for repair and disassembling the Tremec RTC aluminum case top loader transmission. If anyone needs this information, just send me your home email address and I'll send it out to you................Didn't hear back from "rwh" so I figured he didn't want me to have his home email address.
 
Hey AL in NY!
Thanks much for the post! I didn't received an e-mail. My e-mail address is: gold70L78@gmail.com

Thanks again. Still in search of the to input and overdrive gear drive for the "Goldilocks" transmission and hope to need the manual soon.

RH
 
Hey thanks much. I kind of thought this was your solution and order the parts. This machine work is over my head, but I work with 2 excellent ones! Looks like I will be buying a few lunches.

If I can pull this off it will get me down to the input gear. Oh so close!!!
Thanks again for sharing.
 
Ditto to post 305. One should check the rubber insulator as it can flatten out . Some may be very thin depending on engine slope, rear frame mounts, etc.
 
rwh said:
Anyone have a source for the service manual referenced in the Ford Garage site on this topic?
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RH,

I found the manual on my work PC but even better I found the website that has the manual for download.

https://www.garysgaragemahal.com/tod--srod-transmissions.html

To download you'll need to scroll to the bottom of the webpage (not the bottom of the document) and open the dropdown menu, see attached pic.

Tom
 

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