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How common is it to have the same engine no. as the frame no. ?
It seems odd that my truck would have the original engine after 85 years.
It is a 1929 CCPU
 
When I bought my '31 CCPU, I was told it had matching numbers. Turns out that the engine was a diamond block restamp. Numbers did match the title though.
 
I would guess about 50/50 with all A's

however when talking about an A truck, bet the percentages go further down-trucks were used and abused...................
 
My coupe had matching numbers when I bought it in 1981, I didn't think much about it at the time so after a couple of years had another spare engine rebuilt for it as I wanted to keep driving while the replacement was rebuilt. Lord only knows where the original engine ended up.
 
I have owned a dozen Model A's since I was a teenager. All but two of them had matching frame and motor numbers.
 
My 1929 huckster in it's prior life as a CCPU, has matching numbers. The prior life was when I was a teen back in the 1950's and I destroyed it then as a pickup and all these years I kept the "Junk" which I made into a huckster in 2009. I was surprised when I found the numbers matched.
 

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Cars of today are too expensive, over rated, high tech, and disposable. The costs of repairs are just too prohibitive ($2500.00 for a transmission), and you end just junking them. None of these modern marvels will be around thirty years from now.......
 
brito36 said:
Cars of today are too expensive, over rated, high tech, and disposable. The costs of repairs are just too prohibitive ($2500.00 for a transmission), and you end just junking them. None of these modern marvels will be around thirty years from now.......
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I just sold an over-rated high tech and disposable 2000 Dodge Durango. It only had 400,000 miles on it and a little rust on the front bumper. As for prohibitively expensive repairs; it had the wiper motor and the ignition switch replaced. Other than consumables like tyres, brake pads and wiper blades; that was it. No oil needed to be added between changes and there were no leaks.

Why did we sell it? We have more grandkids than seats in a five seater.

Bought another minivan. Sure do miss the Durango. I am sure it would last another 70 years.

All that being said, the 1928 Tudor is much more fun.

Ian
 
brito36 said:
Cars of today are too expensive, over rated, high tech, and disposable. The costs of repairs are just too prohibitive ($2500.00 for a transmission), and you end just junking them. None of these modern marvels will be around thirty years from now.......
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How about:
$1,000 to fix the gas gauge, or
$900 to fix the heater, or
$1,000 -- replace the throttle body (whatever that is)

(2004 Explorer, V6, 98K miles)

Makes some of the major things I've had to do to my Model A look really cheap in comparison.
 
When you see matching numbers...look at the engine pad and see it it has been machined smooth and restamped. I'd bet a large percentage of matching cars are restamps.
From earliest times up int the sixties, rebuilt Model A engines were avaiable everywhere, including Sears and Wards, and were a cheap and quick way to get the heap moving. I think this was the main reason for non-matching cars...having Joe's garage rebuild your engine cost more and took a lot longer than putting in a rebuilt.
 
The pad where serial is stamped was left as cast at the factory, and background will have the same cast texture as the rest of the block. A restamp would generally have a milled finish from having original # milled off. I'm sure there are also more subtle restamps out there...probably some restorers have figured out a way to come out with a new number and the texture!
Man rebuilders past and present routinely cut away serials on the engines processed.
 
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