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How common is it to have the same engine no. as the frame no. ?
It seems odd that my truck would have the original engine after 85 years.
It is a 1929 CCPU
 
When I bought my '31 CCPU, I was told it had matching numbers. Turns out that the engine was a diamond block restamp. Numbers did match the title though.
 
I would guess about 50/50 with all A's

however when talking about an A truck, bet the percentages go further down-trucks were used and abused...................
 
My coupe had matching numbers when I bought it in 1981, I didn't think much about it at the time so after a couple of years had another spare engine rebuilt for it as I wanted to keep driving while the replacement was rebuilt. Lord only knows where the original engine ended up.
 
I have owned a dozen Model A's since I was a teenager. All but two of them had matching frame and motor numbers.
 
My 1929 huckster in it's prior life as a CCPU, has matching numbers. The prior life was when I was a teen back in the 1950's and I destroyed it then as a pickup and all these years I kept the "Junk" which I made into a huckster in 2009. I was surprised when I found the numbers matched.
 

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Cars of today are too expensive, over rated, high tech, and disposable. The costs of repairs are just too prohibitive ($2500.00 for a transmission), and you end just junking them. None of these modern marvels will be around thirty years from now.......
 
Cars of today are too expensive, over rated, high tech, and disposable. The costs of repairs are just too prohibitive ($2500.00 for a transmission), and you end just junking them. None of these modern marvels will be around thirty years from now.......

I just sold an over-rated high tech and disposable 2000 Dodge Durango. It only had 400,000 miles on it and a little rust on the front bumper. As for prohibitively expensive repairs; it had the wiper motor and the ignition switch replaced. Other than consumables like tyres, brake pads and wiper blades; that was it. No oil needed to be added between changes and there were no leaks.

Why did we sell it? We have more grandkids than seats in a five seater.

Bought another minivan. Sure do miss the Durango. I am sure it would last another 70 years.

All that being said, the 1928 Tudor is much more fun.

Ian
 
Cars of today are too expensive, over rated, high tech, and disposable. The costs of repairs are just too prohibitive ($2500.00 for a transmission), and you end just junking them. None of these modern marvels will be around thirty years from now.......
How about:
$1,000 to fix the gas gauge, or
$900 to fix the heater, or
$1,000 -- replace the throttle body (whatever that is)

(2004 Explorer, V6, 98K miles)

Makes some of the major things I've had to do to my Model A look really cheap in comparison.
 
When you see matching numbers...look at the engine pad and see it it has been machined smooth and restamped. I'd bet a large percentage of matching cars are restamps.
From earliest times up int the sixties, rebuilt Model A engines were avaiable everywhere, including Sears and Wards, and were a cheap and quick way to get the heap moving. I think this was the main reason for non-matching cars...having Joe's garage rebuild your engine cost more and took a lot longer than putting in a rebuilt.
 
The pad where serial is stamped was left as cast at the factory, and background will have the same cast texture as the rest of the block. A restamp would generally have a milled finish from having original # milled off. I'm sure there are also more subtle restamps out there...probably some restorers have figured out a way to come out with a new number and the texture!
Man rebuilders past and present routinely cut away serials on the engines processed.
 
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