Clutch Went T.U.

nkaminar said:
Thanks for the photos. Are you able to see a crack open up when your helper pushes on the clutch?

To remove the arm, grid off the upset ends of the pins and then use your drift punch. Since you are planing to replace the arm, don't worry about grinding into it.
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Thanks for the advice, I could not see any cracks in the arm when my wife was holding down the clutch, however I will replace it anyway as that seems to be the most likely issue. I was planning to replace the link with the newer stile also to make adjusting the clutch easier.
 
katy said:
Have you done that? Looked/checked inside the flywheel/clutch housing?
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Bob C said:
X2 what katy said. I think you are wasting your time changing the clutch arm.
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Yes I have opened up the inspection plate and observed the operation of the clutch disk both when engine running and stopped. The clutch disk compresses and throw-out appears to be moving in and out, however the clutch pedal does not fully disengage it from the transmission.


One of you fine fellows suggested that the clutch disc could be stuck to the flywheel, If so how would you UN-stick it? :confused:
 
You say that the clutch peddle "does not fully disengage <the clutch>." If it partially disengages the clutch so that the engine can turn over while the transmission is in gear then the clutch is not stuck. Have your helper push the clutch peddle to the floor with the transmission in gear and try turning the engine over with the hand crank. If you can then the clutch is not stuck.

If you do not see a crack open up in the clutch arm then it is not cracked and you do not have to replace it.

If I was nearby I would come over to help. Is there anyone nearby that you could consult with. As they say, two heads are better than one, especially if one head has 60 years experience with Model A's.

This may be a stupid question, but have you tried adjusting the clutch? It should have 1 inch play at the top, no more.
 
nkaminar said:
You say that the clutch peddle "does not fully disengage <the clutch>." If it partially disengages the clutch so that the engine can turn over while the transmission is in gear then the clutch is not stuck. Have your helper push the clutch peddle to the floor with the transmission in gear and try turning the engine over with the hand crank. If you can then the clutch is not stuck.

If you do not see a crack open up in the clutch arm then it is not cracked and you do not have to replace it.

If I was nearby I would come over to help. Is there anyone nearby that you could consult with. As they say, two heads are better than one, especially if one head has 60 years experience with Model A's.

This may be a stupid question, but have you tried adjusting the clutch? It should have 1 inch play at the top, no more.
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Yea, I would love to have another experienced Model A guru around to give me a second opinion on my issue. My 79 year old body, and remote location precludes that I have to tackle it solo:D Later today I will attempt to measure the free play and look into adjusting the damn thing. You wouldn't like to visit Iowa any time soon, would you?;)
 
I reread your initial post and it is very possible that the clutch is stuck. The way I have unstuck them is by putting the transmission in high gear, jacking up one or both rear wheels, starting the engine, and, at a fast idle, while pushing the clutch pedal to the floor, jam on the brakes. Just be careful that you have the rearend on secure jack stands when you do this so that you don't end up going through the back wall of the garage.
 
nkaminar, You can unpack for your trip to Iowa! When I went out to the shed to measure the free play on my clutch, I had to move the car a little to get it into position. I thought I would use the starter to move it the little bit that I needed to access the clutch pedal comfortably. Pressing the clutch in, and the ignition off, the transmission in reverse, I hit the starter and, with a pop the clutch disengaged! I had tried this same procedure before without success. Today I must have been holding my mouth right as it released. All in all I should have looked for the simplest solution first rather than assuming the worst! Thanks to all of my fellow "Barn'ers you are the best!
 
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