C4 transmission question

Mine is a 2 door.
Yes, I have long been aware of the kits that Ford was investigating for giving "talons" to the Falcon. Great names, Holman -Moody, ( and I forget the other two) all came up with similar solutions---add 2 more carbs to the integral intake manifold, new cam and springs. They differed on whether the carb linkage was progressive or opened all three at the same rate.
The availability of the light weight small block V8 killed the interest in the 6 cyl project--at least on the official Ford level. Lots of people doing variations on that theme even today.
If I could afford a second head, I might make that modification
 
KULTULZ-- yes--pictures at some point, but right now I am at a crossroads---
I come completed the body work and began the paint--original Wimbledon White as per the Body Warranty plate. But I am not happy with the finish of the paint--it is dull. I opted for some paint from a Carlisle Vendor--I had used their BC/CC when I repainted my 300 SD--and it looked fabulous. I got the SS for the Falcon ( again because I wanted "original appearance"). It just never showed the gloss I was expecting. So now, I an considering a repaint, and if I repaint, I might do a complete color change--to either the Guardsman Blue ( like my high school Sprint Convertible), or to Rangoon ( or similar) Red because i already have the new RED carpets.
How much paint should I get for a total color change?
 
ms fowler said:
KULTULZ-- yes--pictures at some point, but right now I am at a crossroads---

I come completed the body work and began the paint--original Wimbledon White as per the Body Warranty plate. But I am not happy with the finish of the paint--it is dull. I opted for some paint from a Carlisle Vendor--I had used their BC/CC when I repainted my 300 SD--and it looked fabulous. I got the SS for the Falcon ( again because I wanted "original appearance"). It just never showed the gloss I was expecting. So now, I an considering a repaint, and if I repaint, I might do a complete color change--to either the Guardsman Blue ( like my high school Sprint Convertible), or to Rangoon ( or similar) Red because i already have the new RED carpets.

How much paint should I get for a total color change?
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You must really like that car. I am not a body man or painter. I had friends that would do that sort of thing for me.

Was it one-stage enamel or acrylic lacquer? Two-stage would leave the finish too glossy for a restoration? Is it the finish color or surface that is not suiting right?

Is there a possibility of block sanding and compounding if one-stage?

Are you also going to shoot the floor pans and trunk area (color change)?
 
rotorwrench said:
All the early Borg Warner single range design automatics were called Ford-O Matic in the 50s except the Mercury and Lincoln versions. The new Ford-O-Matic with aluminum case for 1960 was a 2-speed only. The dual range type for 1958 Fords and Mercury cars were called Cruise-O-Matics. The first small block V8 engines for 1962 (221 & 260) and mid 1963 (289) could use a 2-speed or a cruise-o-matic. The C4 follows the Ford part prefix for 1964 origin. It was a completely Ford manufactured transmission and kept the Cruise-O-Matic plan form for shifting. I also should mention the small block rear bolt pattern change from 5-bolt to 6-bolt that came in 1966. That can put a damper on some engine to transmission swapping depending on what a person has. The Ford 144/170/200 design straight sixes also changed bolt pattern from 5-bolt to 6-bolts in 1966.
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This bolt pattern thing is a handy piece of information that I never knew. Thanks!
 
My Pop bought a brand new 1960 Comet with the 144. The car was supposed to be for the Edsel line of cars but Ford sort of pushed it toward the Mercury line after they shut down the Edsel line in 1960. It was a bit too heavy for a 144 and Pop traded it off in 1962 for a Mercury Meteor with a 260 small block after some of his friends commented on how gutless it was. The meteor was more like a small Fairlane but at least it had a V8 and air conditioning under the dash. My grandmother had a 63 Falcon 4dr but it had a 170 in it so it moved along pretty well.
 
Gene F said:
So the green-dot valve body - is that the thing that made the 66 Mustangs start out in second gear when the shifter was placed in second. I am told it was because the car had a light rear, and it helped in the snow.

Wonder why only 1 year?
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I told you wrong ... :(

The DUAL RANGE (GREEN DOT) would start in 2nd if desired.

... getting hard to find good help nowadays ... :rolleyes:
 
KULTULZ said:
You must really like that car. I am not a body man or painter. I had friends that would do that sort of thing for me.

Was it one-stage enamel or acrylic lacquer? Two-stage would leave the finish too glossy for a restoration? Is it the finish color or surface that is not suiting right?

Is there a possibility of block sanding and compounding if one-stage?

Are you also going to shoot the floor pans and trunk area (color change)?
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I literally HATE body and paint work, but economic issues sometimes force me to do stuff I don't like.
The SS was Urethane, but is had very little gloss. If I didn't know better, I might think it was base coat,
Yes, I am painting the truck and jambs--everything that can be seen ---probably NOT painting the floor pans except at the edges.
I shot that big 300SD using a gallon of BC and a gallon of Clear. Surely 2 gallons would cover everything on the much smaller Falcon, right?
The body line creases are really sharp and would invite burn thru on color sanding and buffing. I kind of want to shoot it and walk away.
 
Well, if the color is good but no gloss, have you considered a clear coat? It would have to be compatible with the base color.

As for body lines, maybe use 600 wet and ease around the seams w/o a sanding block? I would hate to think what a gallon of color costs now.

I think there used to be a painter that posted here.
 
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