Bonded brake shoes

Good for you, Randy Gross! That's the absolute correct business response to keep your customer base happy, as well as make a good impression upon potential customers. You recognized the customer's problem, addressed its cause, made no excuses or accused the customer of wrong-doing, and you supplied a viable solution that was favorable to both of you. You'll be in business for a long time with excellent customer care like that. With only a couple exceptions, we in the antique car community are blessed with honest businesses like yours that are responsive and pro-active in resolving problems that ALL businesses face sooner or later. Too bad we can't get the rest of the American business sector to behave as upstanding as you have. Marshall
 
I bought bonded linings from Mel quite a few years ago, and they have never, ever squealed. I have had nothing but good service and results with them.
 
After driving six (6) years with Mr. Gross's cast iron drums and bonded brakes ...... absolutely no problems ...... they are great professionals in their line of work.

On the other hand, never had problems installing riveted woven linings either.

Appears if one buys a beer making kit and the beer tastes like cat urine, don't just sit there, *****, and blame the yeast ............ if you don't care to learn, just go buy a six pack.

One achieves perfection not only by learning what works ...... but through experience, perfection comes with experiencing and realizing "exactly" what caused something to "not" work ....... the Mel Gross Team like many others in this hobby can warrant their work because they really know what they are doing.

We are blessed in this hobby with so many that strive to please customers.
 
Agree Randy Gross is a stand up guy. that's why I use him and send customers his way knowing they won't be dissapointed. .
 
I had a squealer. I had black colored return springs on the entire car. When re-lining brakes I ordered a set of springs from snyders. These are silver and a heavier gauge wire. Squeal went away. Squeal can also be chatter , any vibration can cause a noise. My dad was a mechanic for 50+ years and told me old car brakes squeal, especially fords. He would say "it's a ford, drive it! stop listening to the noises! He was a GM guy anyway. If you ever watch any old movies from the thirties, you would here the brakes squeal. There's a scene in Public Enemy with Cagney. He stops his Duesenberg and the brakes squealed. Always made me laugh. A Dusey with noisy brakes! Maybe dad was right.
 
Interesting thread! I would just add that, having tried most combinations, I now use woven, riveted linings with cast drums. Matching lining to drum is less critical, because being softer the linings wear themselves in to a certain extent. No squeal, which was a problem when I had pressed drums. I can lock all wheels so no point in going for any more performance! I've done about 50,000 miles like this - no problems.
 
I installed bonded shoes with steel drums, squeaked first time and all time. Sounds like semi truck brake but not as bad...
 
One major down side on bonded linings is they can come unglued. I have a modern twin axle car transporter trailer. I was driving round the major highway round London, England in heavy traffic. A little quickly, I must admit.

Suddenly, lots of smoke and screaming from one of the trailer wheels.

It turned out that one of the trailer brake linings had come un-glued. This locked the brake/wheel solid. It cost me a new set of brake linings and a new expensive replacement trailer tyre, not to mention fresh underwear.

No more bonded linings for me thanks.
 
Marshall V. Daut said:
Here are the promised photos. I thought that I had taken at least one photo of the chiseling process, but I couldn't find it. Well, you'll see the flow in the attached photos from when the bonded linings were in place through the finished re-lining.
By the way, I have found the best way to rivet on the new woven linings is from the center outwards, which ensures centering of the lining on the shoe. Others may vary in their experience.
Marshall
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Marshall were the raw shoes new? Thanks ,Dave
 
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