Black edging glass...

Sanders Auto Glass in Vancouver WA. has a small dremmel like bit that "V"s out the edge by running it down the edge between the laminations. Then they put an epoxy in the "V" and shape and polish it after it is hard. They told me it costs a lot because of breakage/start over issues.
I would never attempt this myself. If they get significant breakage while doing it for a living, what are your chances of success? You would be better off just having them do it to yours or having them make new glass.
 
I had a similar question about sealing the edge of the glass in a '40 coupe to prevent the moisture from migrating between the laminations. Without getting into grinding the edge of glass, what other methods have been effective. Thank you.
 
If you leave the edge of the glass coarsely polished, satin gloss enamel or lacquer will adhere well and seal the edge. It will also have a close approximation of the original appearance
 
deuce_roadster said:
Sanders Auto Glass in Vancouver WA. has a small dremmel like bit that "V"s out the edge by running it down the edge between the laminations. Then they put an epoxy in the "V" and shape and polish it after it is hard. They told me it costs a lot because of breakage/start over issues.
I would never attempt this myself. If they get significant breakage while doing it for a living, what are your chances of success? You would be better off just having them do it to yours or having them make new glass.
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I bought some glass from Sanders, with the black edge. It was quite a while before I got around to using it and the black edge, whatever it was had wept down into the laminate in big streaks. Also, two pieces were cracked in shipment. Never again. this was probably 1977-80 Time period.

I finally just painted the laminate black, sanded off what got on the glass, and went for it. I only did that to the driver's side door glass and that's the only one I did. It was not caught by the judges. Why pay a couple hundred bucks just to keep from getting gigged a point?
 
In the 1980s Sanders Auto Glass was actually run by Mr. Sanders in Oregon. At least 10 years ago, the business was sold to a larger glass company in Vancouver WA and the sons of the owner run the antique car glass business, as they bought the Sanders name too as well as all the patterns. The big difference is now it is all modern equipment, lasers, water cutters etc. as the larger glass business makes windows for large high rise buildings.
Nothing like Mr. Cox describes could happen with a modern catalyzed product. The 14 pieces of glass for my wagon with black edges and bugs was perfect and shipped without incident via UPS. I stopped by their business just to see it when I was down that way and they had a video of the UPS guy throwing boxes of glass they packed out of the truck into their parking log at about 35 mph to test their packaging. They might have that on a website, I don't know. It is a totally different business now.
 
deuce_roadster said:
In the 1980s Sanders Auto Glass was actually run by Mr. Sanders in Oregon. At least 10 years ago, the business was sold to a larger glass company in Vancouver WA and the sons of the owner run the antique car glass business, as they bought the Sanders name too as well as all the patterns. The big difference is now it is all modern equipment, lasers, water cutters etc. as the larger glass business makes windows for large high rise buildings.
Nothing like Mr. Cox describes could happen with a modern catalyzed product. The 14 pieces of glass for my wagon with black edges and bugs was perfect and shipped without incident via UPS. I stopped by their business just to see it when I was down that way and they had a video of the UPS guy throwing boxes of glass they packed out of the truck into their parking log at about 35 mph to test their packaging. They might have that on a website, I don't know. It is a totally different business now.
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Deuce, This is kind of (not) funny but my friend Kent, that runs quite a successful auto glass shop here in town stopped using UPS about two years ago. He'd told me a full 50% of the new windshields he was receiving were broken. The last straw? A new windshield showed up with foot prints all over the box. That was it for him.
Keep in mind, new windshields are packed professionally to be shipped safely, the boxes clearly marked to indicate the contents. It takes "special" effort to break one...
 
Kube, I think you would be impressed with the crate they make to ship glass. I'm sure it is made easier in that as far as I know, all the glass Sanders ships is flat. My 14 pieces were shipped in a single crate that was heavy, that is a lot of glass. The Styrofoam looked like maybe it was cut out by laser as the pieces fit so well with thin rubber in between like pieces of glass. Sounds like Ace Ventura Pet Detective is on the job in your area! (if you don't get the reference, see the movie)
I personally never use UPS if possible due to their absurd "dimensional weight" policy. ( claimed my bare 32 roadster seat cushion springs weighed 52 lbs and charged me as if it did)
 
The choice of carrier is often greatly influenced by the last one of their employees to handle the parcel. At my preferred destination the UPS driver leaves and picks up everything using a large covered box next to the building used exclusively for that purpose. The FedEx driver can't be bothered and just throws his deliveries on the lawn and not necessarily on the lawn of the addressee. He also claims to have delivered parcels that he has not delivered. They simply disappear.
 
If you really want to experience shipping problems try USPS International
I shipped an early dome top coil brought off ebay from Tn to New Zealand earlier this month via first class international USPS. When it hadn't arrived after 3 weeks I used the tracking number to find it was held up in customs in ITALY.

I'm not sure how good your geography is but Italy is exactly on the opposite side of the world to New Zealand. USPS would have to sent it into space for it to be further away from me.

Ok I'll just email them and inform them of there mistake . Great they won't accept emails form anywhere except the USA . I'll ring them on their 1-800 number . Of course only open certain hours which corresponds to the middle of the night here and not free for international calls . So I ring them at 2 am and the computer can't understand my sexy colonial accent ! Finally placed on hold listening to a message for 15 minutes (and Paying for it!) before I hung up in despair.

Ok contact the seller by email to chase them up. Which he has done and was told that we didn't pay enough to get Rolls Royce service and international parcels go by weird routes and not to worry as only 1 in 200 items go missing permanently . Does not First class imply good service any more and how can it be cheaper or more efficient to send a parcel to the other side of the world to its destination!

Oh well will be interesting if it shows up. Then I might have to send it back to Skip to rebuild -Who knows this time might go to Florida via the Congo! Karl
 
I believe we got a little of track here on shipping vs glass edging to protect the laminations from moisture. Since I don't a give darn about judges, and are only concerned with the integrity of the original glass, it sounds like the best solution was recommended by DaveG. Any other experiences or suggestions ? Thank you.
 
I have on two of my cars replaced glass. While Sanders is a great company, I opted the more affordable route and had my glass cut locally. One one of the cars I used a Sharpie "Rub a Dub" Laundry marker. On the other I painted the edge as mentioned. Whiles both held up the one with painted edge looks the best. The key as DavidG mentioned is for the edge to NOT be polished. This is a picture even though hard to see of the glass with a painted edge.

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