Barrett_jackson 31 roadster WOW $$$$$$

Have you stopped to comtemplate that the reason it didn't just bring $25K was because there was more than one person who felt it had a value of over $45K? Otherwise it would have never been bid that high.

And sometimes it is just one guy that wants to pay someone to restore the whole car. Not meant to be personal by any means but even when we do them ourselves we sometimes easily have more into it than the car can sell for. Of course the satisfaction of knowing everything was done correctly makes for a lot nicer driver.
 
And sometimes it is just one guy that wants to pay someone to restore the whole car. Not meant to be personal by any means but even when we do them ourselves we sometimes easily have more into it than the car can sell for. Of course the satisfaction of knowing everything was done correctly makes for a lot nicer driver.

Interesting point Frank, and the ironic thing to me about all of this is we typically like frown when other hobbyists receive what we perceive as a large amount of money for their car yet we complain because we don't receive that amount for our own car.

It has been my experience that people who have disposable income to pay what some perceive as a large sum of money for "toys" generally did not get that way because they made unwise financial decisions in life. These people generally only spend the amount they have deemed as a value to themselves for their earned dollar. Is it fair for us to determine what is a prudent value for them to spend? Afterall, it was their money in which they spent to bring themselves pleasure.


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This type of thing is hard on the hobby. Everyone will be afraid to sell their roadster for less than $48,000.00, now.
MIKE :)

You're right to some degree.........but only in the short run. We go through this every year at this time. I'm with Marco, it's THAT car at THAT event with THOSE (maybe) buyers. No doubt poorly informed people will see stars in their eyes thinking they too can get that kind of money. But only if they can some how match up with some equally poorly informed buyer. Even if their car doesn't appear as nice, they believe a "restoration" can be done "for just a few thousand and then be worth at least as much". But then we see that often even without BJ. If the unrealistic seller actually needs to sell the marketplace, who generally knows better, will ignore the outlandish asking price, or a few brave souls will offer a more realistic price, piss the guy off, and let him stew until he gets the message.

One thing we might learn from this though. If we want top dollar for our cars when we sell them, it's probably a good sales tactic to lubricate the potential buyers brain (and wallet?) with some "free" alcohol first.............:D
 
Remember you're talking BJ where fools with money show up for a lifestyle event. Its like Pawn Stars where they could have sold it on ebay for twice as much but take half the $$ to be on TV. You don't think any roadster is worth $48K because you know better and don't have the money to spend foolishly. Also remember that although BJ is a no reserve auction they have a very high buy back rate.
 
This year they have dropped the "No Reserve" stipulation for some of the entries. I suspect that's why the high dollar classics are back...........sellers of that level car want some downside risk protection.
 
The Beauty-Rings and two-tone dashboard are a nice touch.

I wouldn't take 50K for my '31 Deluxe Roadster since that would only begin to repay all that I've sunk into her in 29 years of restoration and priceless family driving memories.

But it does pump up my ego a bit to see Model A "values" holding up well (getting out of hand??) in the eager (untrained) eyes of affluent buyers.

I agree - 50K in the bank just wouldn't bring the kind of fun and memories that a back-country roadster drive on a cool fall day with grandkids in the rumbleseat brings.
 
If I had to pay Fifty thousand for a refurbished roadster, I would just have to do without one. Thats not to say that a refurbished roadster isn't worth the price. It is a shame that model A's have probably the lowest resale value of most collector cars. If you think about it, It is the model A owners own fault for accepting less for their model A than it cost to buy and restore them. If you take in to account the cost of a roadster that hasn't ran in nearly fifty years, then add in another twenty thousand or more for parts, some nos and period correct performance parts, paint and restoration materials and labor,( I did all my own labor) You can easily exceed fifty thousand dollars. I was getting fifty dollars per hour for painting seventeen years ago. Also consider the percentage of taxes you would be expected to pay after selling a car for several thousand dollars.

My roadster is not a show car. I built it the way that I wanted it for our enjoyment. It has Insa tires and though I have several original coils, I did the unthinkable and installed a Pertronix flame thrower coil. It does look mostly stock and is a lowly standard model. I wouldn't want to accept fififty thousand for mine.
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ty thousand for mine
 
Interesting point Frank, and the ironic thing to me about all of this is we typically like frown when other hobbyists receive what we perceive as a large amount of money for their car yet we complain because we don't receive that amount for our own car.

It has been my experience that people who have disposable income to pay what some perceive as a large sum of money for "toys" generally did not get that way because they made unwise financial decisions in life. These people generally only spend the amount they have deemed as a value to themselves for their earned dollar. Is it fair for us to determine what is a prudent value for them to spend? After all, it was their money in which they spent to bring themselves pleasure.

Brent,
When I look at the cars and some of the prices I can't help but think the seller is upside down with the car if he had it professionally restored. Do you agree with that? I cannot see how a complete car can be disassembled, inspected, painted, chromed and upholstered for under 50,000. Some may say it should be higher. A restored good running Model A for under 20k should be considered a real bargain. But now the brakes need some attention. Ohh steel drums? Should replace with cast iron. Bad front wheel bearing. Easy fix. Ooops race is spun. D**** worn key way on rear axle. To do it right the restorer will easily have over $1000 doing that job himself. To send it out a significant portion of the cost of the car. Let's just hope you do not decide to powder coat the wheels as long as they are off.

I visited a collection last August and asked the owner if he bought the cars restored? He said I let someone else get upside down with them. And he had a Maserati he bought at B-J. As well as some Model A's.


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Purdy - Neat looking Standard Roadster! To be proud of! (Washington Blue and Riviera Blue?)

When we invest so much of our heart, soul, treasure, memories and bloodied hands in these beauties, they become nearly priceless - to us anyway. How do you put a realistic and objective price tag on that?
 
So, true.

When ever attending car shows, some spectator will come up and ask if my car is for sale.

When I reply that "I've been offered $50,000, what's your offer?", they get indignant, and say "You're crazy! No Model A Roadster is worth that kind of money..$25000 tops!"

To which I reply, "Perhaps, you're right on both counts. But then again, I didn't ask you to buy my car, did I?"

I can't quite make out the mumbling as they walk away.
 
Like Jeff says, I know this dude, always wanted a 442. So he buys a 10k 70 cutlass convertible, and freaking pays someone 48k to turn it into a 442 clone????? For that 58K invested in the car, he can never get his money back out of, it will always be a clone. For 60k he could have had a documented 442 and it would continue to go up in value. Makes no sence....
 
Purdy - Neat looking Standard Roadster! To be proud of! (Washington Blue and Riviera Blue?)

When we invest so much of our heart, soul, treasure, memories and bloodied hands in these beauties, they become nearly priceless - to us anyway. How do you put a realistic and objective price tag on that?


Thanks Earle, The colors are Lombard blue with black fenders. I worked on the build for three years. I had wanted a roadster most of my life. Thanks to eBay, I was able to buy this one. Here is a picture of it the day That I got it.
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are you crazy you couldve bought 5 of those with that money


Show all 5 of them to me that are in the same condition and I will buy all 5 tomorrow!!

I am truly amazed at the narrow-mindedness in the comments above. Contrary to what is being stated above, there are people out there that do not buy a car (or boat, or RV, or ??) for the intent of being able to sell it for a profit.
 
Let's say someone has a solid A Roadster they bought for $10,000 and they want a profesional shop to build a twin to the Barrett Jackson car what would it cost?
Show all 5 of them to me that are in the same condition and I will buy all 5 tomorrow!!

I am truly amazed at the narrow-mindedness in the comments above. Contrary to what is being stated above, there are people out there that do not buy a car (or boat, or RV, or ??) for the intent of being able to sell it for a profit.
 
Well said and now I know I am not the only crazy one:D
The Beauty-Rings and two-tone dashboard are a nice touch.

I wouldn't take 50K for my '31 Deluxe Roadster since that would only begin to repay all that I've sunk into her in 29 years of restoration and priceless family driving memories.

But it does pump up my ego a bit to see Model A "values" holding up well (getting out of hand??) in the eager (untrained) eyes of affluent buyers.

I agree - 50K in the bank just wouldn't bring the kind of fun and memories that a back-country roadster drive on a cool fall day with grandkids in the rumbleseat brings.
 
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