Bad clutch shudder

Bolt the pressure plate to the flywheel, be sure to center the disk. Measure the finger height to the top of the pressure plate. (Straight edge across the pressure plate to the fingers)
They should all be the same.
If not, adjust fingers to match... Or replace pressure plate.
Forth Wayne Clutch, YES.

Karl
 
for the record, about a month ago i was shopping for a 9" kit. first looked at fort waynes web site, then for the heck of it looked at ebay. i found on ebay the same kit listed by fort wayne for about 30 or 35 bucks cheaper. same part number except with an S on the end. i called to ask whats the diff, he said S means it has springs around the center, while a tractor disk may not. so i asked why its cheaper on ebay and would they prefer to do sales that way. he told me they some times are short of cores so they then buy from china, and thats what you will get if ordered from ebay. i said yeah i would assume you run out of cores as there is no mention of it on the web site. "o no, we charge a core charge!" well i thought what the heck i got him on the phone just order it and be done. kinda pist off, but i got the real deal, made in usa. he called me back an hour later and said" i cant charge you a core charge, your right, its not mentioned on our web site! so, call em up, dont buy the cheap ebay deal!
 
Well. I got my Ft Wayne Clutch disc today, looked at the invoice.
Totaled out to 109.35
$10.00 of it is core charge,
$20.15 Shipping/handling.

Had everything else looked at and all is well.
Hopefully I got the oil leak stopped this time.
 

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cas3 said:
for the record, about a month ago i was shopping for a 9" kit. first looked at fort waynes web site, then for the heck of it looked at ebay. i found on ebay the same kit listed by fort wayne for about 30 or 35 bucks cheaper. same part number except with an S on the end. i called to ask whats the diff, he said S means it has springs around the center, while a tractor disk may not. so i asked why its cheaper on ebay and would they prefer to do sales that way. he told me they some times are short of cores so they then buy from china, and thats what you will get if ordered from ebay. i said yeah i would assume you run out of cores as there is no mention of it on the web site. "o no, we charge a core charge!" well i thought what the heck i got him on the phone just order it and be done. kinda pist off, but i got the real deal, made in usa. he called me back an hour later and said" i cant charge you a core charge, your right, its not mentioned on our web site! so, call em up, dont buy the cheap ebay deal!
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That's good info.
 
FlatheadTed said:
Also the three finger type are more sensitive to correct adjustment ... a diaphragm type is a good alternative such as a BMW but there is some set up drama , Ted
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Ted -- What BMW diaphragm-style pressure plate is this and what sort of drama is involved? The fingers in diaphragm pressure plates don't usually have a large enough opening for the Ford input shaft.

Thanks
 
I have what is probably a really really stupid question.
I was going through old parts I just couldn't bring myself to throw out. I found the clutch pressure plate that was in the car when I got it.

It has the three adjustable fingers, and its in good shape except for surface rust one the pressure area.

Who out there wants to smack me in the head for even wondering if it would be okay to put it back in with the new clutch disc? I was just wondering, but my head tells me it's a bad idea.

OH YEAH, the OLD disc has the same set up as the new one from Ft Wayne Clutch- the wavy metal between the friction surfaces.

When I was getting ready to install the clutch parts I noticed a film of grease all over the pressure plate. Got a real good look at it and it appears to have grease from the throw-out bearing all over it, and I do mean ALL over it.

Initially I just ordered a disc from Ft Wayne, I first thought everything was okay to clean up and put back in. SOOOOO, I figure I'll be $$$ ahead to just go ahead order the whole kit from Ft Wayne and not worry about it. I just hope they'll take the new disc back.

I kinda think the pressure plate I took out this time was bad. Part of the grease all over everything seems to be grease from inside the throw out bearing. So maybe the pressure plate was not set up right and putting pressure on one side of the throw-out bearing. flatheadmurre made comment to this earlier in this discussion.
 
Just seen this will answer in a day or so Ted

Detonator said:
Ted -- What BMW diaphragm-style pressure plate is this and what sort of drama is involved? The fingers in diaphragm pressure plates don't usually have a large enough opening for the Ford input shaft.

Thanks
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myself, i would clean the grease off, sand the contact surface and use the pp. look at the round head on the adjustment fingers that meet the throw out bearing, are they wore out, flat, grooved or otherwise bad looking? if not, clean it up and get on with life.
 
I've had very good luck using original clutch discs that are just cleaned up and put back in. OEM Ford used is better than most of the repop out there.
 
No reason why you can´t change the clutchdisc and reuse the pressureplate if it´s in good shape.
The reason you change a pressureplate is if it´s worn out or overheated from slipping.
If there is no sign of heatspots freshen up the surface and put it back in.
Wear on the levers and surface would give you an indication of how much use it seen.
 
After you install the used clutch plate make sure the three fingers are the same distance from the flywheel so throw out bearing is not cocked out of alignment when depressing pedal. If not, adjust them accordingly.
 
If it was me - I'd send that original Ford Long Style pressure plate to Ft. Wayne and have them go through it. That way you'll know it has been correctly setup, the spring tension is correct, etc.. Who wants to risk taking the engine in/out another time. Time is what always kills me - I never have enough of it!
 
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