Adding turbo to classic FE block
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frnkeore
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5851a, as you surmised, it was a typo, I corrected it.
KULUTZ, I'm sure you must then, be unaware that Ford releases cars to magazines, for advertising and promotional purposes. In doing so, they also supply information that they want to be publicly known but, beyond that my purpose for including that HR reference, was to prove a time line i.e. you can't do a article on something that doesn't exist.
If a new model is offered for promotion, from the factory, with non RPO equipment, it would likely be a sign, that it's a prototype and that is a way to date something.
The HR article was the first reference of the 360HP, if the 360HP was produced in Sept, because it was a big deal, it would have been promoted somewhere between Aug and Oct of '59 and not Dec & Jan (MT).
Lastly, I'm not like you, I document my info and include any thing that that I've heard, from what I consider a reliable source.
You ask me for pictures and documentation and I provide it! I ask the same of you and you provide, only excuses of why you can't or won't!
It may be foolish on my part but, again, I'll ask you for documentation of your statement that a outside source cast the intakes.
KULUTZ, I'm sure you must then, be unaware that Ford releases cars to magazines, for advertising and promotional purposes. In doing so, they also supply information that they want to be publicly known but, beyond that my purpose for including that HR reference, was to prove a time line i.e. you can't do a article on something that doesn't exist.
If a new model is offered for promotion, from the factory, with non RPO equipment, it would likely be a sign, that it's a prototype and that is a way to date something.
The HR article was the first reference of the 360HP, if the 360HP was produced in Sept, because it was a big deal, it would have been promoted somewhere between Aug and Oct of '59 and not Dec & Jan (MT).
Lastly, I'm not like you, I document my info and include any thing that that I've heard, from what I consider a reliable source.
You ask me for pictures and documentation and I provide it! I ask the same of you and you provide, only excuses of why you can't or won't!
It may be foolish on my part but, again, I'll ask you for documentation of your statement that a outside source cast the intakes.
KULTULZ
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If you had asked in a somewhat respectable manner to begin with, I would have started to dig ...
I in turn asked for your documentation, which you have not supplied, only a reference to a car magazine which most often is not exact and/or to the point. A TECH WRITER supplied the text, not a FORD REP.
My asking you for documentation was my being facetious.
The SPECS you see in that article are most likely the same FOMOCO was required to submit as final product to NASCAR, NHRA, USAC or whomever as to be built for public purchase. It will not describe design, testing and assembly before final release of the engine.
If you want the absolute truth, you would have to search HOLMAN-MOODY as this who did most research/build for FOMOCO during this period or through FORD TSB release's.
Now do me a favor and step outside and check the parking meter as your WHITE STALLION is double parked.
Why Me!?
KULTULZ
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I find it trying myself and I apologize for my behavior, but ...
Let me try and answer all your questions this time ...
The carb pad angle is directly tied to the install angle of the engine with a carburetor as the carb has to be somewhat level to get the calibration correct. What you see are engines installed at a higher angle and their using a wedged spacer so as not have to cast a special intake.
There are several types of CASTING ID MARKS. One when the casting was poured (DATE CODE) and info will vary according to the type of casting part. And these will vary over different periods. Two will be the foundry location. Three will be casting mold no. Four, usually there will be a STAMPING ID that will give date of assembly (engine in this example) and shift so as to allow FORD to go back if there has been trouble with the casting.
The PARTS BOOK(s) are the last source for how a car was originally assembled for certainty. They are updated quarterly and as obsolete parts are dropped they are deleted from text. If a part is superseded by a replacing PN, it will be there for a short period then usually dropped from text (this was more common in the PRICE BOOK). There are different references to find replaced/deleted PN's as there are texts to cross CASTING ID NOS over to SERVICE PART NOS.
I think I covered it all ...
frnkeore
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I just noticed that you only included one picture and it's the flat carb pad 360HP manifold.
The 390HP was a completely different manifold and was also used on the 385HP, 406.
The 360HP, was a one year (actually 1/2 yr) use manifold.
The '61 390 has larger runners, that are higher to the ports. Note the #5 runner and it's relationship to the upper plane runners. No change for the 406. This is my manifold, dated 1C3. It was ground on before I bought it and I've remachined it and will weld the missing divider back in. The pad originally looked like the C3AE -F
The second picture is the next 4V manifold, the LR 427, C3AE -F
The 390HP was a completely different manifold and was also used on the 385HP, 406.
The 360HP, was a one year (actually 1/2 yr) use manifold.
The '61 390 has larger runners, that are higher to the ports. Note the #5 runner and it's relationship to the upper plane runners. No change for the 406. This is my manifold, dated 1C3. It was ground on before I bought it and I've remachined it and will weld the missing divider back in. The pad originally looked like the C3AE -F
The second picture is the next 4V manifold, the LR 427, C3AE -F
