1931 Ford Maroon

[Timothy Kelly]

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[msmaron]

Tim...get a hold of Ken Ehrenhofer on this....I am sure he can help

 

[Rainmaker Ron]

I have been searching for a current paint formula that recreates the "Ford Maroon" used on Model A Fords when they were produced.

In addition to the Model A Paint and Finish Guide, I have access to a high quality 2.5" x 4.5" paint chip that has printed from the factory on the back of the chip "Ford Maroon." With these two resources, I have what I believe are reasonable points of reference.

Thus far the current "Ford Maroon" formulas that those involved in the restoration of my car and I have found have produced spray outs that are too brown, too red, too light and too violet. We seem to be hitting all around Ford Maroon......but have thus far not nailed.

I understand that it is possible to create the exact color that I am seeking. The trouble is, taking this approach makes it very difficult to create more than one gallon of paint.

If you happen to know of a current formula or source of Ford Maroon paint that you believe closely results in a color which matches that which was originally used on Model A Fords, I welcome your input.

Thanks in advance for any assistance that you might be able to provide.

Tim, This is a match for the back side of my gas tank. Most feel it is just right, not too anything.


X-31 COLOR

8/22/2011​

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PPG Ambassador Maroon


Single stage urethane DAU 50842 QTY 1 Gal

Code
Color
cumulative
Parts








DMD 623
RED
847.1
847.1
DMD 646
WEAK WHITE
850.7
3.6
DMD 647
STR. BLK
1692.0
841.3
DAX 609
ACTIVATOR
1772.0
80.0
DMD 625
VIOLET
4278.7
2506.7










Most people are afraid of the Ford maroon and dump red in it. Mine changes colors in the different light but nover red. I ask the red car owners to please not refer to their cars as maroon. Good luck with your search.
Rainmaker Ron

 

[Bick in New Zealand]

Timothy, I look forward to seeing the results of your search. I am facing the prospect of painting my Victoria this year, and it has always going to be the correct Ford Maroon. I have been told that 1966 Mercedes Maroon is on the money. Good luck!

 

[MikeK]

The last time I saw Rainmaker's X-31 was several years ago in Sharon, Wi. I really liked the maroon, but I don't think the Deltron DAU listed by Ron is a current PPG product. It has been superseded by Concept DCC in single stage apps. LINK There's always the question of how well a color formula translates to another base, even in the same brand line. I would try 1/2 pint first.

 

[Mike V. Florida]

Try;
http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorlibrary/

 

[ford3]

ford maroon 1929-30 and 1932, dupont DS056 , PPG1011, ford maroon medium 1931, dupont- DS064

 

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Tim, here is a thought to ponder.... Are you using the Paint & Refinish Guide as the absolute or do you have some other benchmark by which you are matching to?

I have often wanted to use an original PPG-printed color chip book and compare the color chips to those in the REV 3 book. I have the PPG sample cards that were produced in 1959 and when I had a couple of the colors are analyzed by PPG and DuPont's color spectrophotometer, they are not the same. So which is right and which is wrong? I dunno but if you think about it, it is the P&RG that is the standard by which most people compare a Model-A paint colors to.

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[Mitch//pa]

tim
if you come up with a definitive realistic "modern" formula that mimics the original ford maroon please post it. it has always seemed to be the mystery color with many variations and out dated formulas.

 

[Jon-Ohio]

Here's an original unrestored (15k miles) 31 roadster that was on dispkay at Hershey a couple years ago - with original Ford maroon paint and stripe.

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91308

 

[Greg Jones]

The picture of the roadster is quite overexposed. I tried getting it close to normal exposure in photoshop. When I was researching Ford Maroon over 30 years ago, the Ditzler DDL 1011 (now PPG) was spot on, comparing it to original paint that was in hidden and protected areas on car bodies. I painted my 26 Model T coupe Ford Maroon, which was previously known as Royal Maroon-same color. It is very dark. As with original colors, they were not particularly bold and bright but dark and rich looking.

As it ages, particularly lacquers, it can look a little bit like reddish brown or "brick colored." I know it is not a Model A but I have attached a picture of my Model T in Ford Maroon. I had to repaint the hood, and used modern enamel. Looks completely different than the lacquer-shinier of course.

Hope this is of some value to you.

 

[Greg Jones]

Here is a picture of my 30 Cabriolet in Ford Maroon. The color is correct but not correct for a 30 as maroon did not appear until 31 on the Cabriolet.

Just my observations and opinions--I would closely check out the PPG 1011 as PPG absorbed Ditzler so you would THINK they got the codes right.

 

[Greg Jones]

Not to beat this to death, but here is another image of my Ford Maroon cars. The light you view it in makes a difference too.

 

[Bick in New Zealand]

Timothy, how did you make out on this, did you have any joy?

 

[John LaVoy]

Timothy, The current Ford color Bordeaux Reserve Metallic is based on the Model A Ford Maroon. I don't know if you looked at the formula you could pull the metallic out of it in the production process but it really is close. I painted my sedan Ford maroon using the method you speak of for a gallon. I order the Bordeaux color from the paint store and they look the same except for the metallic in the other.

 

[Flathead29]

I realize this is an old thread. But here is my Victoria in Ford maroon. At night it looks black and in bright sunshine it looks almost brown. It is not metallic and is more of the “rich” color described above. I don’t have the formula that was used but had it scanned at a supply shop and they mixed a quart for touch up.

 

[Mike V. Florida]

I realize this is an old thread. But here is my Victoria in Ford maroon. At night it looks black and in bright sunshine it looks almost brown. It is not metallic and is more of the “rich” color described above. I don’t have the formula that was used but had it scanned at a supply shop and they mixed a quart for touch up.

Here is another formula,