Lastest 1935 flathead

Walt, being in your shop was as good as a trip to Hershey!

When we were at your shop I took 140 photos and about a half-dozen videos. I just loved every corner of it, and yes, even looked at your pile behind the shop. The stuff on your walls is amazing, stuff like cylinder heads that say DUPONT, a Hank Williams tour poster, photos of Lawrie's dragster, your cars and life is all on the walls out there.

(For anyone interested, I posted 600 photos on PhotoBucket under my username, VeryTangled, and the album is called "Maine Tour August 2012," have fun looking, I hope you have a fast internet connection.)

Thanks again for your amazing generosity to let us descend on your home and press your mind for flathead gold. (And thanks again to Karen and Chuck Lessard who organized the Maine Tour 2012.)

Oh, and you have a very nice dog.

-VeryTangled/Jeff

PS. For anyone who missed it this fall, I posted three videos of Walt talking about the oiling system and issues in flatheads. It was an amazing twenty minute discussion. Just use GOOGLE to search for YOUTUBE WALT DUPONT and you'll find links to all three. They're also on PhotoBucket
 
Hey Walt, Hate to jack knife this thread,but seen the pics of you on the pole. My Dad raced from 53to60 at Flat Rock, Motor City and Mt Clemens. Ever hear of any of those racetracks in MI. ? Ken
 
Hey Walt,
Wow, thanks for sharing! Is that a '34 alum intake on this engine? I asked as I have the same intake on my '36 engine?
 
hardtimes said:
Hey Walt,
Wow, thanks for sharing! Is that a '34 alum intake on this engine? I asked as I have the same intake on my '36 engine?
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I'm really not sure but I think it's a 35 intake, it's aluminum, I think the 34 intake had a oblong hole under the fuel pump stand and didn't have the fat breather pipeunder there. We left that breather pipe out because we have a 34 oilpan with out the breather on the right front. Walt
 
Hardtimes,the intake is 34 only although I have been told that they showed up on very late 33"s. After the 34 intake, the manifolds started showing the legs on outside of the casting,which covered the block intake ports.The 34 intake looks like a solid block of aluminium with no exposed legs on the outside of the casting.Also the restoration book for 1933-34 by Cliff Helling shows the 1934 manifold on chapter 3 page 3. Hope this helps and I wish everyone a safe and happy holiday.EPW
 
That intake manifold is 1935, which looks very similar to 34 but can be positively identified as follows; The 35 manifold has that little nub about 1" dia behind the carburetor riser, whereas the 34 version does not. The fuel pump flange on a 34 manifold has a diamond shaped hole, whereas the 35 has a round hole to accommodate the baffle tube. Obviously, this is only of interest to the absolute purists among you. Brian
 
Wow! Nice, and it makes me jealous to get my 35 overhauled. I'm just now getting it out of the car. It's great to see them ready to go back in, especially when they're sitting on a test stand, ready to run. Heads look like new!
Thanks for posting!
 
Hey Walt, (don't want to jack your beautiful engine..but)
Thanks for your reply. A bud here forwarded me a fordbarn thread that You/Brian and epw1949 would be interested in as I was.... to answer my inquiry...re: intake ID.
GM Sedan posted a wonderfully informative intake manifold pictures in a previous thread on manifold discussion. It didn't take but a glance to confirm my '34 alum intake...with its smooth rounded exterior appearance...best looking of all the stock intakes...IMO.
epw1949 was right on, and so was my buddy..thanks M.
Now , my next question. I'm going to put up a pic of my '34 intake and ask youse what the heck reason did someone make the gouge under the gen location ??? Any opinions...

BTW Brian...my intake has the 'diamond' shape you describe.

Hm, had trouble posting pics. These four pics show the '34 (?) that I asked Walt about. Why would someone gouge at gen mount?
 

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Brian,you are right about this manifold being use on the 35,it was carried over from the 34 until march - april of 35, the manifold beared the part # 40-6519-b. The 35 manifold after april beared the part # 48-6519 which shows the legs on the outside of the manifold casting.I hope this is right and clears things up.Take care and have a safe and happy holiday.EPW
 
Walt Dupont--Me. said:
Well guys, I haven't posted a pic in a long time , I bought a new PC awhile ago and everything is differant. My daughter is helping me. If this works it's the lasted engine I just finished, 1935 flathead. Cross your fingers.
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I am still having trouble pulling up pictures posted in this format. Just kicks me off of the net. HELP
 
EPW 1949, There are two versions of that smooth styled manifold, the 34 version with the diamond shaped hole, which was then slightly modified to accommodate the baffle tube [by means of a round hole] used in 35's with their crank case breathing setup. I run one of these on my 35. There is no part number cast into it anywhere.
 
I am always amazed at the number of component/part variations that seem to pop up in these discussions that are seemingly not documented. I thought all of the '34 intakes, including those that were temporarily carried over into early '35, had the diamond shaped opening at the fuel pump stand mounting. If you go back to that recent post on 'Intake ID' there is a picture posted by David G. that shows another variation of a late '34/early '35 intake that looks like a '35, but also has a diamond shaped hole.
Brian, your intake that looks like a '34 but has a round hole to fit the '35 baffle tube sounds like yet another variation. Could this be a Canadian part that was sent to AU and NZ? Do you have pictures of this intake you could post here? I am collecting pictures of all these different intake variations in my files for future reference. Thank you.
 
Brian said:
Unable to post photos as intake is installed in my car. I've sent you email. Brian
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Hey Brian,
YOU are the man and correctly tried to inform us others regarding the TWO intakes (i.e.-'34 and '35) that to the untrained eye , mine:o, look pretty much alike ! I have learned that Walts intake , with the knob back of the carb area, is a '35...which is very different from my '34 intake. Thank you much for your input as it appears that not everyone knew what you were talking about with my '34 having diamond shape area and Walts '35 having the round fuel pump area..which needs the 'baffle'.
Now for my further education..question: I have a '36 block/engine with NO baffle in fuel pump (diamond area). Walts latest engine pics show a baffle in front of manifold and he says needs a baffle also in back of '35 manifold. Brian, could you explain the need for baffle in '35/'36 engine..what is any negatives without baffle? Without the baffle, my '36 seems to run just fine!! Confused. Should I get rid of this '34 intake and search out '35 with round baffle area..what say you?

Oh...and Merry Christmas to all Fordbarners!
 
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Your 36 running without the baffle will run just fine!, however ,the purpose of the baffle tube is that air is drawn into engine from rear breather, through the baffle tube, which directs this air down into the crankcase, from where it circulates back up into the valley, then down through the upstanding tube at front of valley and out of the vent. The idea is that fumes etc are absorbed by this continual flow of air and vented to the atmosphere. Prior to this feature being introduced in 35, these old engines had no provision for venting the crankcase of fumes. You should really run the system Henry devised. You can take a file to the diamond shaped hole and open it up in order to fit the baffle tube. Without the rear baffle tube in place to direct this airflow into the crankcase, the air can go anywhere on its path to freedom [outta the vent].
 
Hey Brian,
Ok, I got the breatheing system in my mind now. Thanks for the instruction. Hm, think I'll look for a '35 alum intake , like the one Walt used!
BTW- did cast iron intakes produced at the same time for '35/'36 engines and if so ...why two different types/metals?
 
I've never seen Cast Iron intakes on 35-36 passenger vehicles, but possibly were a commercial only feature?
 
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