Upper Door Seal

[ampico-kid]

I have a 1930 Briggs Town Sedan. The upper rubber door glass window seals are petrified and in need of replacement. Question....if I remove the interior window molding can I access the door/glass seals? Or do I have to remove the entire door panel to remove the glass to access it? Or is there some other way to gain access? Thanks.

 

[Marshall V. Daut]

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[CT Jack]

Are you referring to the seal that the glass goes against when the window is closed? If it is it can be scraped out and replaced with new seal material. These get attached with adhesive cement.

 

[ampico-kid]

Are you referring to the seal that the glass goes against when the window is closed? If it is it can be scraped out and replaced with new seal material. These get attached with adhesive cement.

I'm referring to the rubber strip that presses against the outside surface of the door window glass. I assume it's there to help deter water from running down inside the door and to help prevent rattles. Here's a link to one on the Synder's website.

https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/product.htm?pid=977486&cat=0

 

[The Master Cylinder]

I'm referring to the rubber strip that presses against the outside surface of the door window glass. I assume it's there to help deter water from running down inside the door and to help prevent rattles. Here's a link to one on the Synder's website.

https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/product.htm?pid=977486&cat=0[/

Edit: After reading Marshall’s comment below, he is correct.

 

[Marshall V. Daut]

For that metal strip with a rubber squeegee blade, you will need to remove the upholstered door panel (including window riser handle and door opening lift handle) and window garnish moldings, which in your Town Sedan are secured to the wooden door frame by small, long screws with cup washers. Then the inner window riser support panel and window come out so that you can get to that scraper piece that is mounted on the inner door skin. It will need to be drilled out or if you are lucky, just unscrewed. In my Murray Town Sedan, I had to drill new holes for the replacement scraper strips because the doors had been re-wooded by a previous owner, but predictably these window squeegee strips and almost all other inner door parts were missing (see photo). This is NOT a fun job. Are you sure it's worth the effort?
Marshall

 

[ampico-kid]

For that metal strip with a rubber squeegee blade, you will need to remove the upholstered door panel (including window riser handle and door opening lift handle) and window garnish moldings, which in your Town Sedan are secured to the wooden door frame by small, long screws with cup washers. Then the inner window riser support panel and window come out so that you can get to that scraper piece that is mounted on the inner door skin. It will need to be drilled out or if you are lucky, just unscrewed. In my Murray Town Sedan, I had to drill new holes for the replacement scraper strips because the doors had been re-wooded by a previous owner, but predictably these window squeegee strips and almost all other inner door parts were missing (see photo). This is NOT a fun job. Are you sure it's worth the effort?
Marshall

Thanks for the detailed explanation. The reason I posted this was to determine if it would really be worth the effort if the door panel (and all of the other aforementioned parts) had to be removed to access the rubber strip. I'll have to think long and hard about this. I'm leaning toward...NO....it's not worth the time and effort. Thanks again for the information.

 

[The Master Cylinder]

Thanks for the detailed explanation. The reason I posted this was to determine if it would really be worth the effort if the door panel (and all of the other aforementioned parts) had to be removed to access the rubber strip. I'll have to think long and hard about this. I'm leaning toward...NO....it's not worth the time and effort. Thanks again for the information.

They don't do much to keep the water out anyway. Just ensure the drain holes are clear at the bottom of the doors.

 

[ampico-kid]

They don't do much to keep the water out anyway. Just ensure the drain holes are clear at the bottom of the doors.

I figured as much, but I can see the crusty stiff rubber lip touching the glass, and it looks like it going to start breaking off in pieces any time now. If it wasn't a huge project, I would replace it, but you've convinced me otherwise.

 

[Y-Blockhead]

Unfortunately you have to get the glass out of the way to R&R the upper seals. I took my doors apart to replace the window channels and replaced the upper seals along with adding Dynamat to the doors. What a job. I didn't want to put nails thru my door panel upholstery so I used double sided tape to install the panels.

I hope to never have my doors apart again! But I am happy with the results. The windows operate wonderfully and the doors sound really solid with the dynamat installed.