Restamping a restamped block
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Chris in WNC
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ronn, I like this path of least resistance.
Especially if there are no plans to sell the car.
When I sold our Town Sedan in 2013, I signed the FL title over to the new owner.
He never got a KY title, just hung a license plate on it and drove it.
When we bought it back in 2021, he gave me back my FL title that was signed over to him.
I applied for a duplicate FL title which was sent to me at my NC address. Had to pay some sort of fee but got no other hassle.
Sold the car to a friend in PA with no trouble last year.
If your engine # is not in any databases as stolen you should never have a problem. When your dad leaves this world, keep a copy of his death certificate with the title still in his name.
mcorrell
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This is pretty much were I stand right now. My dad signed off the title and mailed it to me years ago. I've been driving it for years on his Ohio plate. I have the Ohio registration for the current plate plus registrations from the late 1980s before he got the antique tag.
I've insured the car since it arrived here along with my Buick Wildcat with Hagerty.
I just don't want to leave a mess for my kids to have to deal with when something happens to me while I am still able to work on the car.
Chris Haynes
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The inspectors will know that there is no body tag with a number on it. They have information on everything. The officer who verified my Model T showed me all the information about Model Ts he had on an I Phone.
TerryO
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I visited our Tag office yesterday to get tag and applied for a title for a "new" 30 roadster I bought about a month ago and it took 15 minutes to fill out the paper work. The car was at home in my car barn. This is in GA and no title is required for cars over 20 years old (IIRC) so the process is simple here. The last time I registered a Model A was about 5 years ago and no problem.
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jeepguy1948
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State of Washington DMV didn’t even look at my RPU at all, I just handed them the title and bill of sale and that was it. I’m thinking that you are over thinking this. And yes, I realize that Washington may be different than your state but I would just do it, get it done.
Joe K
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Cow Hampshire sees a number and says "yup."
Doesn't matter if its on the engine or the frame.
If they don't match, and you're body off - you just don't mention the "other" number. Like drape a rag over it.
My numbers on a 1930 AA truck DID match. I showed her the two numbers and she spent a good 20 minutes trying to confirm the match. She finally gave up when I told her the chassis number gets covered by the body.
I said "stick with what you see."
Joe K
Doesn't matter if its on the engine or the frame.
If they don't match, and you're body off - you just don't mention the "other" number. Like drape a rag over it.
My numbers on a 1930 AA truck DID match. I showed her the two numbers and she spent a good 20 minutes trying to confirm the match. She finally gave up when I told her the chassis number gets covered by the body.
I said "stick with what you see."
Joe K
McMimmcs
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Very sound advice, in my opinion! Wayne
JoeCB
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Back to the original post ... much interesting info here, but the OP was about correcting a "double stamp" on a couple of numerals. Perhaps a simple fix would be to grind an old nail set punch tip into a tiny "ball peen" shape and carefully peen over the mis-stamp. Then, being sure to engage the number stamp into the original number form, give it a good hard hammer blow. Done!
Joe B
Joe B
ModelA29
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This ^^^^^ You've got 17 years to renew the license. Why not just transfer it into your name in your dad's state - using his address? Best of both worlds - in your name and 17 years of registration paid.
ModelA29
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Cops have access to a closely guarded book (I think put out by the FBI) on VIN locations and what they look like. It also has all the hidden locations with partial VINs that can be used to identify stolen cars and parts that have been used since the late 1960s.
rotorwrench
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The USA DOT has been setting up databases that can be shared between states for theft tracking. The states are slowly coming on board with sharing databases. The DUI database was mandated in 1996 so that folks escaping prosecution in one state would get docked a drivers license application or renewal in another state until they face the music. They want.their pound of flesh and theft deterance will eventually catch up to cars with a twin out there someplace.
If a person wants to avoid impropriety, whether intentional or not, they will eventually need a state issued DMV VIN tag installed per local state approval. Ford finally started stamping the frame in a visible place in 1932 and they have been ever since.
If a person wants to avoid impropriety, whether intentional or not, they will eventually need a state issued DMV VIN tag installed per local state approval. Ford finally started stamping the frame in a visible place in 1932 and they have been ever since.
Russell Reay
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Mine is not ready to register yet, but in the process of renovation I took several photos of the number on the frame, as well as a couple of pencil rubbings. I also stamped that number on a tag, and riveted it to the X-member behind the battery, and purchased a body number plate, stamped the number, and attached it to the firewall just below the data plate. The car has been registered with its engine number, but the number on the paperwork is incorrect (digits incorrect, eg 6 instead of 8) , and the engine number has no stars and does not match the frame number. This is in NH where older vehicles are not titled. Hoping for minimum difficulty.
nkaminar
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My car is registered with the original engine number that matches the number on the frame. The previous owner has the original engine. I installed a Burtz block and stamped it with the correct stamps. So now there are two engines with the same number. If the original engine gets installed in another car then they may be some sparks generated at the North Carolina DMV.
Russell Reay
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Has anyone else been amazed/ baffled/ angered by the amount of money spent by all levels of gov't on the tracking and regulating of motor vehicles? Of all the necessary and good things that gov'ts do--and ought to do-- the obsession with motor vehicles seems misplaced.
Not me. If you have a valuable car that someone tries to copy, you’ll be happy that they track the serial numbers.
Just letting my mind wander- what if you made a jig to hold the stamp in place, could somehow clamp it to the engine block and then take an air hammer and count 1001, 1002 let it hit the stamp. Maybe it would be worth trying on a junk block. Ive seen the the needle scale trick and also a small ballpein hammer be able to re texture cast iron. Again experiment on a junk block
nkaminar
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The original stamping was not uniform. The numbers were not in a straight line. The stamping was done by hand. If the numbers are perfect this is a clue that the block was re-stamped.
If your aim with a hammer is not all that good, perhaps it would help to hot glue the stamp to the block, while the block was laying down so that the stamps were vertical. My hand that is holding the stamps tends to slip when I hit the stamp with the hammer. Maybe my hand is a little shy of the hammer.
Has anyone created a window (hole) in the body so that the number of the frame can be seen?
If your aim with a hammer is not all that good, perhaps it would help to hot glue the stamp to the block, while the block was laying down so that the stamps were vertical. My hand that is holding the stamps tends to slip when I hit the stamp with the hammer. Maybe my hand is a little shy of the hammer.
Has anyone created a window (hole) in the body so that the number of the frame can be seen?