NOS vs NORS

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Dennis/CT

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Hi guys,just my 2 cents about something that bugs me.I'm from the old school,the 1970's.I see ads on ebay,not the Ford barn, that people try to sell new parts and say that they are NOS, lets clearify the term. Here is a hypothetical ad, NOS distributor cap for Model A from Joe's auto parts,bought it last year and never used it. WHAT ? This is NOS, I don't think so !!!!! NOS means NEW OLD STOCK. This is a part made in the year the car was manufactured by the auto manufacturer and was forgotten about on a shelf or warehouse,still in it's original package and found years later. Than there is NORS, New Old Reproduced Stock,which is a part that was reproduced, lets say in 1950 by private company ( not the auto manufacturer ) than it was found years later in it's original package.I'm not condemning people on Ford Barn,I just want to pass on some info so sellers don't advertise with the wrong description and you don't get ripped off when you buy a part. Thanks for your time,Happy Model A-ing. Dennis /CT P.S. I bought ( which I thought ) an NOS transmission cluster gear, it was advertised that it come out of an original shipping crate. After I received it and went to use it about a year later I found that it was made by Mark Auto not Ford.
 
You can find that all the time under Model a Ford spark plugs.. They are either N.O.S., Vintage, or Original.. All the later ones made today..:rolleyes:
 
to some NOS means NEW (to me, I just found it), OLD(was made prior to 2011), STOCK(as in 'i've got it in stock or it will fit like a stock part if you re-manufacture it). The R in NORS means (replacement as in Replace the easily repaired original with this piece of junk).
I agree with the definition of NOS meaning YOM ford part, never installed. NORS as replacement part made after YOM by, or approved by Ford. Replacement parts were made by allot of manufacturers some of dubious quality then and even today. dfwiw,jm
 
It could very well have come out of an original shipping crate--,but that doesn't mean that it was originally in the crate.

I was at a junkyard, the yard truck went by me with an engine swinging from the hook, he then backed up to a car hulk in a short row that didn't have an engine, got out of the truck, looked into the car, wrote on a tag, put the tag on the engine, yanked the engine out and continued on his way ---I was curious, looked in the cars in that row --35k miles,56k miles,67k miles ---the engine just came out of a 67k mile car!!

I have seen many parts that are represented as "NOS", but are in fact used (bolt marks, lockwasher grooves etc.--I used to try and reason with the vender, but now I just put it back---unless the price is good ,the part is good.
 
I almost agree except I consider NOS as parts made by the OEM for replacement. I do not require a part to be in the original package to be NOS. I don't consider the requirement that they be made the same year necessary or even something you can determine. Even then some NOS parts made the same year are different than production parts as the repair process may be different than the manufacturing process. I define NORS as a new old stock replacement part made by other than the OEM intended for service. Generally if bought it from a Ford dealer it's NOS, if bought from NAPA it's NORS.
 
This is one of my major pet peeves. It seems simple, yet greed gets in the way. New-something is only new once. Old Stock-In orginal package, Replacement-non OEM made. It goes without saying that NOS is OEM only! A replacement part made by a different manufacturer for an antique car, no matter how old that Rick-Pack is, will never be NOSR! NAPA is not a NOSR dealer..
 
Jerry Parr WI said:
I almost agree except I consider NOS as parts made by the OEM for replacement. I do not require a part to be in the original package to be NOS. I don't consider the requirement that they be made the same year necessary or even something you can determine. Even then some NOS parts made the same year are different than production parts as the repair process may be different than the manufacturing process. I define NORS as a new old stock replacement part made by other than the OEM intended for service. Generally if bought it from a Ford dealer it's NOS, if bought from NAPA it's NORS.
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Dennis/CT said:
The key word is OLD,how can a part that is bought at a NAPA store today be called NEW OLD REPLACEMENT STOCK.
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You guys sure picky. New was an assumed condition in both cases, meaning unused. NAPA was intended to mean that it came from any parts house other than the OEM dealer and not to imply that it is currently available. Old is a relative term but which I apply to any parts not currently in production. If they no longer make it, it is old by my definition.
 
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