dean from bozeman
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I expressed this idea in a different thread but am starting a new one so that it isn't lost at the end of a thread but is considered anew. Basically I propose that we create a Visual Judging Standards.One that is accessible to all and could be paid for by limited advertising.
Here's an idea for your review:
It is convenient when judging at a meet, to rely on the sage in the group. The one who has the answers. But what happens if the sage hasn't seen or doesn't accept variations as they came from the factory.
Something as simple as how the patent plate is attached to the firewall could cause trouble. I have seen original cars with the plate's rivets inserted from the front side and other original cars with the rivets inserted from the back. Henry Ford, foremen and the individual assembly line worker didn't have the JS to rely on. There are variations in the way many individual parts were attached to the A as it went down the assembly line. Does a sage know all the ways? Should some ways be excluded?
There are no easy answers but I suggest three things.:
1. That we set up a visual (digital picture archive) for standard areas (engine compartment, drive train, headlights, etc.) and for areas particular to various body styles. The JS committee could pick representative vehicles for this digital JS.
2. That we begin a digital history of the original cars left. I propose that we photograph almost every angle of the original cars that are still unmolested. Yes, I realize that even the most pristine original car may have been slightly altered through the years but there is a lot that could be gleaned from such photos.
3. I propose a database be set up for accessing allowable variances. For instance, a photo of a firewall (Proposal #1) would show the patent plate with the rivets inserted from the front. If the users cursor went over the patent plate, a bubble could variations with a link to a photo.
Yes, perhaps this is a pipe dream but it is also possible with today's technology. I wonder what it would cost.
What is possible? Let's make a digital Judging Standars that is vailable on the Internet. Once set up it could pay for itself with advertising in the margins.
I would suggest that we use a car like Marco's Roadster for the model Model A. It is a gorgeous car that has been well photographed and could serve as a "template" for many features common to all A's and in particular the '30-31 A's.
Seriously folks, I applaud and admire what the JS standards committee does. It is a tough thankless job. Making a visual JS would help those of us who are isolated from clubs, don't have a resident sage or need something that we can see. The JS does a fine job of explaining in words many facets of the details in a Model A but as they say one picture is worth a thousand words.
Here's my vote for a visual Judging Standards.
Thanks for your ear.
Dean from Bozeman
Here's an idea for your review:
It is convenient when judging at a meet, to rely on the sage in the group. The one who has the answers. But what happens if the sage hasn't seen or doesn't accept variations as they came from the factory.
Something as simple as how the patent plate is attached to the firewall could cause trouble. I have seen original cars with the plate's rivets inserted from the front side and other original cars with the rivets inserted from the back. Henry Ford, foremen and the individual assembly line worker didn't have the JS to rely on. There are variations in the way many individual parts were attached to the A as it went down the assembly line. Does a sage know all the ways? Should some ways be excluded?
There are no easy answers but I suggest three things.:
1. That we set up a visual (digital picture archive) for standard areas (engine compartment, drive train, headlights, etc.) and for areas particular to various body styles. The JS committee could pick representative vehicles for this digital JS.
2. That we begin a digital history of the original cars left. I propose that we photograph almost every angle of the original cars that are still unmolested. Yes, I realize that even the most pristine original car may have been slightly altered through the years but there is a lot that could be gleaned from such photos.
3. I propose a database be set up for accessing allowable variances. For instance, a photo of a firewall (Proposal #1) would show the patent plate with the rivets inserted from the front. If the users cursor went over the patent plate, a bubble could variations with a link to a photo.
Yes, perhaps this is a pipe dream but it is also possible with today's technology. I wonder what it would cost.
What is possible? Let's make a digital Judging Standars that is vailable on the Internet. Once set up it could pay for itself with advertising in the margins.
I would suggest that we use a car like Marco's Roadster for the model Model A. It is a gorgeous car that has been well photographed and could serve as a "template" for many features common to all A's and in particular the '30-31 A's.
Seriously folks, I applaud and admire what the JS standards committee does. It is a tough thankless job. Making a visual JS would help those of us who are isolated from clubs, don't have a resident sage or need something that we can see. The JS does a fine job of explaining in words many facets of the details in a Model A but as they say one picture is worth a thousand words.
Here's my vote for a visual Judging Standards.
Thanks for your ear.
Dean from Bozeman
