Bill Bentleys site and the Techno site were related. all the info on the techno site came from members contributions from Bill's site. when Bill Passed away and Carl took over I inquired if there was a way for some one to download all the info on the techno site onto a cd/dvd or flash drive. and make it available for sale at a reasonable cost to help keep the site going, but got no response. I mentioned at the time that If I had the knowledge, that I would do it. I was not very computer/tech literate at the time , and still am not. I am lucky I can turn the computer on. There is a lot of info there on the techno site . I printed a lot of it out, but I doubt I got it all.