Where are Rumbleseats posts ?

Tom Walker

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I am looking to put a Columbia in my 32, and have read that Rumbleseat did a good post on this subject. But a check in the members list shows a young guy with only 6 posts under that name. Have all the early Rumbleseat posts been lost?

Thanks, Tom.
 
yes somebody got in with his name so he cannot use it now shame however he has been ill for some time now a wealth of knowlage
 
yes somebody got in with his name so he cannot use it now shame however he has been ill for some time now a wealth of knowlage

There is a Rumbleseat (one word) that has a few posts, and Marcus got the original rumble seat (two words)signed back on but there have been no more posts from him.
 
If part of this Forums purpose is to provide a resource for those without the knowledge to pick the brains of those that have the knowledge, it seems crazy that the posts of an important member can get "lost".

Can the designers of this site sort this out please?

Thanks, Tom.
 
Boy I agree with Tom. Rumble Seat was a resource for my first build and I continue to use the info he posted. I feel privliged that I had the chance to meet him. He drove his roadster everywhere including a trip from Colorado to Florida that I know of first hand. A good guy.
Pete
 
I've tried Bill's Tech site, and did not find rumbleseats description of how he did his Columbia. Maybe I missed it?? I scanned through some of Paul's stuff (at the bottom of the site). So, to try and address a little of Tom's question... This is part of what I think I remember (and keep in mind, my memory is fading). I think Paul based his Columbia on parts from his 34 rear end, and Columbia parts from a 46 or 47 Ford. Machining and Fab skills required. I think he used the left 'bell', as is. This would be a 34 bell, same as late 32. I think the right bell is a combination of the 46/47 Columbia bell, and a 34 bell, which he put together. I think the center section (banjo) is from the 46/47. My recollection of the axles, possibly the 37-40 type (inaccurate, see edit below), as I recall he modified the outer ends slightly, to compensate for length. Total axle width must have come out just slightly greater than stock 34. Paul's car, BTW, is a 34 roadster, so doing this for a 32 would be very similar. I'm sure I've missed something, and I hope others will correct me if you find errors.
Somewhere, I think I have a copy of what Paul wrote. If I can find it, I will either re-post, or edit this post.
JMO

I found this, which I believe may be the info requested. I have no record of where I got this, or date it was posted....
Since you asked: My Columbia is an electric/vacuum unit from a '46. The Columbia overdrives are wider beginning in '35 and are wider than the ones used in late '32 thru '34 Fords.
To make everything fit was fairly simple once I got into it. Changed the complete center section (with the 3.78:1 rear end gears) to a '35-'48 since center sections beginning in '35 are wider and the '34 won't accommodate the wider gears. (Some guys machine shims so they can retain the stock, and narrower,'34 center section. I've never done this, but understand it's being done frequently.)
The wider '35-'48 center section makes the stock '34 axles too short by 3/8" on each side. I used the spider gears from the '46 and made longer axles using the '46 axles and shortening them so they were 3/8" longer than the stock '34 axles. This required machining a few new threads and lengthening the taper and keyway. Sounds like a lot of machining, but only took about 40 minutes to set them both up and machine everything.
The right '34 axle housing was cut about 4" from where the right wishbone connects. Using the outer section of the '34, a friend grafted the right side inner axle housing (with the Columbia section)to the outer section of the '34 so the newly created right axle housing is exactly the same length as the stock left axle housing. The stock '34 wish bone bolts up on both sides as do the brakes and backing plates previously used. Then it's simply a matter of bolting everything together. It's worked good so far.... and that's been somewhere around 100,000 miles. Hope it stays glued together on the runs planned this summer. .....rumble seat

This same info is buried within the BillB reference info for Rumble Seat, mentioned in other posts here. Click on 'Gears', then scroll down to a paragraph titled Columbia Overdrives.
 
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Bob, I am grateful to you for your help. JM pointed me at Rumbleseats resource which is printed elsewhere. It is quite complicated, putting later rears on early frames.

Thanks, Tom.
 
Tom Walker: Evidently when Ryan took over the Barn (Thank You Ryan) a lot of the past postings were NOT transferred over, however if not for Ryan where would we be?? There is still a wealth of info and people to share with here. FWIW
Paul in CT
 
I recall Rumble Seat (Paul) describing all the details of how he put his Columbia together on the old Fordbarn. I just did a search in the archives here using the key word "Columbia" and found nothing! Basically a waste of time to even look there. It is a shame that most all of the informative posts from the old Fordbarn are apparently gone/lost. Maybe you could contact Rumble Seat direct with an email or PM. If that doesn't work maybe Marcus could help you get in direct contact with him. Worth a try.
 
I am looking to put a Columbia in my 32, and have read that Rumbleseat did a good post on this subject. But a check in the members list shows a young guy with only 6 posts under that name. Have all the early Rumbleseat posts been lost?

Thanks, Tom.

Tom, I may have mentioned this to you in the past, but can't remember for sure now. I have a friend in Southern England (lives in or near Wells) who is building a 32 Roadster. When I visited him last year, in September, 2012, he was building a Columbia rear for his '32. He is a member of the Early Ford V8 Club there in England and is very knowledgable on most all of the years and models of the early V8's. It is possible that he could help you with the information you seek and maybe parts as well. If you are interested in contacting him, send me a pm.
 
I and many others sure enjoyed the stories of Rumbleseat's trips. Not many guys take off for a few weeks by himself and travel the country. He would run on down to Billy's place in L.A. ( where is he by the way? ) and one year he ran up here to the Sacramento area and we got to visit with him and see his neat '34. A real hot rod guy. Hope he is comfortable.
 
Some of the old fordbarn posts were saved on CDs and sold by Shelly. I have at least one of them with dates from 1998-2003. The info is laid out with the same format as the old forum which was tough to read as you had to click on each message within each thread. The new format is a lot easier.

EDIT: Looks like I have Archive CD2 which is 1998 to June 2003 and Archive CD3 which contains June 2003 to December 2004. Not sure how many CDs there were but bet they could all be rounded up and dumped back on the server here since we are not talking about much disk space.
 
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Thanks Steve that was the one I could'nt find.

Gearhead....I think there should be a section in the Barn for people to archive material they want to treat as a resource, or for posters who have found stuff when doing searches that they think should be flasgged up and saved in an indexed or searchable form. If there was, you could post your CD info there for others to find.

Part of the problem is the difficulty in using the "search forum" facility, which I dont find always gives good results. Probably me not knowing how to use it.
 
Part of the problem is the difficulty in using the "search forum" facility, which I dont find always gives good results. Probably me not knowing how to use it.


Just an FYI

If I am searching for something specific on here I usually go to Google and enter:

site:www.fordbarn.com <search terms>

i.e.

site:www.fordbarn.com flathead

and this will return a search only of the Ford Barn forums for the term flathead. (of which there are 11,900 references) Works for searching any site with Google.

--louis
 
well i was under the understanding that when shelly sold the barn to ryan all the archive stuff went with so could ryan please inform us if this is correct.if so when will it be available as this stuff was gathered from ford guys that have passed now and is info need on here thanks trev:confused:
 
Thought I would let you guys know that unfortunately Paul Garrigan (Rumbleseat) Died Yesterday morning
He will be missed.
He lived a couple of blocks from me and I,ll miss seeing him scooting around in his roadster
Rest in peace Paul
 

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