When is a 28 not a 28?

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Check out ebay item 290767369464 for a 1928 Fordor.

Especially check out the back seat full of trophies, etc.

Has a 1928-29 radiator, steering wheel, bumpers, etc. However, does not have the 28-29 "ridge" between the cowl and the body. It's smooth like a 30-31. Is it just me?? Or did somebody get a little creative?

I have to admit, that one body line characteristic is the only thing I find objectionable about the 28-29's and why I chose a 30-31.
 
The 28-29 fordor, town sedan, town car and convertable cabriolet all shared this style cowl. All but the fordor had a cowl band. The gas tank was mounted under the top of the cowl instead of being exposed like the coupe, tudor, trucks, station wagon and taxi that used the coupe pillar style cowl.
 
I am not familiar with the water pump. What is the story with it?

They state that the car was restored only 4 years ago. The radiator and condition of the engine say otherwise.
 
The 28-29 fordor, town sedan, town car and convertable cabriolet all shared this style cowl. All but the fordor had a cowl band. The gas tank was mounted under the top of the cowl instead of being exposed like the coupe, tudor, trucks, station wagon and taxi that used the coupe pillar style cowl.

Now I know you know better than that Sir! :D

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That is a nice example of what I would call a repaint, not a restoration. Nice paint, interior, presentable car. No clue how it runs with the older motor. Notice the dash stripe that does not belong there, and the tell tale shift lever and hand brake lever painted black, a sure sign the car was not completely restored. Odd horn also. If the wood is good, the car is worth the price just for the paint and interior.
 
, I'm not sure exactly what you mean, Fill me in.


Ohh, maybe I misunderstood but I thought you were saying all cowls except the Fordor sedan had a cowl band, ...which I figured was just an oversight when you were typing that because I felt comfortable that you already knew some Fordors models actually did have a cowl band. That is why I posted a picture of the 155 bodystyle just to 'rejog' your memory. Again, maybe I misunderstood your initial comment. If so, please forgive me and just overlook what I said!! ;):D



Bob, that is probably Vagabond & Rock Moss. That photo is one that the late Chuck Shaw hosted on the GW Chapter's website. Regarding the color, from my experiences I will tell you that it is VERY ugly in the paint cans, and kinda ugly when the freshly sprayed body is sitting in the spray booth, but once it is buffed, striped and contrasted with the Black sheetmetal, it is a very complimented color combination. At that point it growns on you. :D

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Thanks Brent, that color sure got my attention, I like it, black wheels and blackwalls, hard to beat that combination. Correct or not I could see it on my '29 60C. Bob
 
Brent, NO problem. I just meant that the standard 28-29 fordor didn't come from the factory with a cowl band, but all of the others that used this type cowl did have a cowl band. You've had more experience with fordors than I have. I know that my September 29 Murray town sedan cowl did have a cowl band and cowl lights. After it suffered fire damage, I replaced the cowl with a 1928 leather back fordor cowl that never had a cowl band. Maybe the later 28-29 fordors did have cowl bands, if so, my bad, sorry.
 
Thanks Brent, that color sure got my attention, I like it, black wheels and blackwalls, hard to beat that combination. Correct or not I could see it on my '29 60C. Bob

That is Brad Nelson's beautiful 1929 Murray Town Sedan and the picture was taken at the Green Bay national meet, where it was entered in fine point judging. Shortly after the meet this car was on the cover of the MARC magaizine. Brad keeps the car in one of those bubble air bags and it looks as nice today as the day Chuck took this picture.
 
Bubble air bags??? Never heard of that.... It is really tough keeping a car looking new, antique OR modern. My wife has a 2000 yellow VW beetle that we have tried to keep "new". It now has 115,000 miles and yes, it does still look very close to new, but it has taken a pile of effort and money. The drivers seat (leather) is starting to show wear, I suppose we'll have to replace it soon. Maybe we should have tried just letting it sit in the garage in a bubble air bag! Myself, I like to drive a vehicle that I can aim for the salty puddles with!
 
There were several aftermarket manufactures of water pumps. Sears and Montgomery wards both offered one that looked like that I believe. But the engine compartment does need a little TLC to help sell the car. But I do love the 1929 fordor
 

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The pic of the '29 Murray that Brent posted is the same body and year as mine I am doing (but my spare is in the rear, not the front fender).

I believe mine was the same color as in the pic when new. I really like the colors and I think I will do the color like that when I get to that stage of the rebuild.

(when I got it April 2010)

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Brent, NO problem. I just meant that the standard 28-29 fordor didn't come from the factory with a cowl band, but all of the others that used this type cowl did have a cowl band. You've had more experience with fordors than I have. I know that my September 29 Murray town sedan cowl did have a cowl band and cowl lights. After it suffered fire damage, I replaced the cowl with a 1928 leather back fordor cowl that never had a cowl band. Maybe the later 28-29 fordors did have cowl bands, if so, my bad, sorry.

You were 100% accurate and complete in your initial post. With that said I've read posts too fast and missed key elements even upon rereading.
 
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