What type of paint

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Ed Solari

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Thought I posted this yesterday..can not find thread

I am painting a 34 and there are Arcylic enamal, Arc. Urethane, and Arc. Lacquer paints. What are the pro/con of ease of application versus appearenace for these non-water based paints? Would like to get the best appearence provided the difficultly of application is not unusally difficult..will be doing my on painting in professional booth with no dryers for water based...so solvent only.

Also..any brand of paint better than another????

Thank you
Ed Solari
 
My 2 cents, Lacquer paints look great when done correctly but can chip a lot easier in my opinion. I used lacquer, wet sanded great, buffed out great but over time, little cracks appeared and chips missing.
 
painted my 56 bell air sport coupe with arc urethane 22 years ago still looks like it was painted today goes on great dries fast but not as fast as laquer
 
I painted my Merc. with Dupont #99 Diamond black acrylic lacquer only because for many years thats what I was used to doing. I have since done a BMW motorcyle using single stage urethane (no clear coat involved) and I like this stuff. It seems to be a lot tougher than the lacquer and if I had another car to do I would use it.
 
For a solid color (non-metallic) finish, I would use a single stage urethane. For metallic finishes use two stage (base/clear) urethane.
I use PPG products. To save some $$'s, look into the PPG Shop-Line paints.
 
I will second what 39 STD said about PPG Shop-Line paint. I use base/clear PPG on everything, just what I'm used to.
 
I would go with PPG as well, one stage .Get the slow thinner if you are in a hot conditions min/1/2 hr between coats ,Epoxy prime the body ,make sure all metal is spotless ,Rust treatment /conditioning
 
If you are not going with metallic use single stage. It is less costly and less work and easier to patch. I think all of the modern paints are good so go for price. Color sanding is a lot of work so try to keep the orange peel down. :)
 
My vote is for single stage urethane goes on nice, easy to mix, use a urethane sealer under it. no problems. Good luck
 
I used urethane primer/sealer and single stage black for my 32 chassis. It looks great and is tough.
Just make sure surface is CLEAN and "follow the instructions" because if you don't it's very tough to sand it back down and start over, ask me how I know :).
Did I say follow the instructions?
 
DuPont is in the processof selling their automotive paint division for 6 Billion dollars. G.M.
 
I found that Dupont didn't have a urethane formula for my 1941's original color. So I used single stage acrylic enamel. Good old Centari is easy to spray and pretty forgiving for an amateur like me. It can be be overshot with clear for a UV protection for a daily driver or outdoor car. But mine will never sit outside so I shot three coats and called it good.

PPG Omni doesn't cover well, it's their budget line. Dupont Centari or Nason I've always had good luck with. I didn't know Dupont was selling their automotive finish line. Good source for supplies and prepackaged colors if you're not looking for a custom match www.pivco.net
 
41 I always liked Centari it sprayed good, covered well and held up for a long time. You could have got a color code for any Dupont product. They have a special department in Exton, Pa. that will transform the old laquer formula to any type or match it to a sample you provide. How do I know, my grandaughter worked there. She got switched to Wilm.Del. to develope new paints for future cars. She just sent me an email on the proposed selling of the auto paint division. G.M.
 
I have shot Dupont imeron for years and it has a hard surface and holds its gloss well for vehicles stored outside. It does chip, and allow rust to get a foothold. It can be formulated to your color. One frontloader had 26 gallons of yellow on it when it was sold for scrap. $$$$

Bruce

Works good
Lasts long time
 
I think the Imron is in the Aerospace products catagory. I hope they keep producing it. It's a straight polyurethane paint. I'm going to keep using it as long as it is available. It has always been excellent for the Helicopters I work on. I use it on my cars & motorcycles too but you have to let it completely solidify before you start working it through rough weather & harsh environments or it will chip due to softness that hasn't completely cured up. It can take up to a month or more in cooler weather for it to completely cure. In hot months like we are having now, it cures up in a week or two.
 
I'm using the Restoration shop line of urethane by AutoColorLibray. I'm happy with it. Under it is black epoxy primer and 2k primer from Southern Polyurethane.
 
One thing I failed to mention is that Centuri can be used as an enamel or a hardener can be added. I like the addition of the hardner. G.M.
 
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