What is this truck?

tubman said:
Help out a poor uninformed "shoebox" guy. That school bus sure looks like it has "wide-5" wheels. Did Ford continue them past 1939 on trucks? Some of the other examples in this thread don't appear to have them.
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3/4 tons still had wide fives in '40
 
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tubman, I can't answer your question personally, as these Ford Panel Trucks were never available in Australia. You would have to ask someone in the USA who is more familiar with this model.
However, if you look at this Illustration of the 1940 Ford 3/4 Ton Panel from the original Sales Brochure, it does appear to have the same "wide-five" wheels that the School Bus that is on display in the Early Ford V8 Foundation Museum has?
What do other people think?
 
The Ozzie trucks use 38 style doors, whereas the American trucks use the 'jailbar' style doors. Look at the swages..
 
3/4 tons used the wide fives, on a 122" wheelbase. Only for a couple years. Never seen one in person. Only thing more oddball would be if it had a 4 cyl tractor engine. So now we have a large, long wheelbase truck with big fender openings and little tires and large interior volume that can't climb a hill. It was short lived for a reason.
 
expavr said:
Gary
There was a good restaurant (pre Covid) in downtown Anacortes that I might be able to convince my wife that a 3 hour ride in the Tonner would be fair compensation for any aches and pains that might result from that trek. As an added inducement if the Skagit Valley Tulip Festival happens we can turn both wives loose to look at the posies and you and I can wander around some country roads in our old iron. Looking forward to it.

Les
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That would be really fun Les! You may want to take the lead, as this little 120 hp diesel rolls a little coal on the hills. Oh wait, the Skagit Valley is really pretty flat. See you then!
 

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the wide 5 truck hubs and bells were the basis of the early dirt track cars with a QC rear
 
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Ford Australia built quite a few of these 1940 Open Cab Pick-ups. Many were used by the Army in World War II.
I saw this survivor many years ago, but it's fate is unknown. I don't know if it has been lost or saved?
 
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Ford Australia built quite a few of these 1940 Open Cab Pick-ups. Many were used by the Army in World War II.
I saw this survivor many years ago, but it's fate is unknown. I don't know if it has been lost or saved?
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Would look even better with the Marmon-Herrington underpinnings.
 
1940 & 1941 Trucks came in 4 "sizes" look at the wheels.

Small pickup looked like a standard car, 112" wheel base 16" 5 on 5 1/2" wheel hub caps same as cars.

3/4 ton looked like the ones in these pictures, 122" W.B. 16" wide 5 wheels & hub caps.

Tonner has same look, 122" W.B. 17" split rims and hub caps specific to them.

1 1/2 ton same look Various W.B. 20" split rims, no hubcaps, dual rear wheels.

The big difference in all of these is size of the brakes to match weight rating.
 
"Tonner has same look, 122" W.B. 17" split rims and hub caps specific to them."


To clarify a misconception the 1940 17" Tonner Rims used a Continuous Locking Ring to hold the tire to the rim as opposed to the Split Rim type.
 

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expavr said:
"Tonner has same look, 122" W.B. 17" split rims and hub caps specific to them."


To clarify a misconception the 1940 17" Tonner Rims used a Continuous Locking Ring to hold the tire to the rim as opposed to the Split Rim type.
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Never knew the actual term for the one piece ring type wheels. Always referred to any 2 piece rim as a split rim (with the exception of widow makers) Either way they are both a PITA to mount/dismount. IMO. Back in the mid '70's I worked with an old guy (he remembered when a lube job included treating the rubber coating on the running boards) who showed me how to mount/dismount them. Even with the correct tire tools the shop had and his assistance I never was able to change a tire as easily as he could and he had me by 40 years or more.
 
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Here is a picture of a restored Australian 1940 Ford Open Cab Pickup, similar to the one that I added in Post 28.
This one is from down south in Victoria.
 
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Here are pictures of my friends 1940 Ford Truck. You can see the V8 pressings on the Hood which denotes that it is a 1940 model. Very nice.
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Did the wing windows come on this truck or are they an aftermarket add, or another Australia feature?
 
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To answer MGG's question:- This illustration of an Australian 1940 Ford Heavy Duty Truck showing Quarter Windows - is from the original Australian Ford Truck Sales Brochure.
 
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Here are two pictures of Australian 1940 Ford Vans which are illustrated in a Booklet on 1940 Fords published by Ford Australia. Notice that these Vans also have Quarter Windows. Also notice the different full length body moldings that have three strips, which is different to the American body. Also notice that the 15-18 cwt unit has what appears to be Wide Five Wheels.
 
mercman from oz said:
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To answer MGG's question:- This illustration of an Australian 1940 Ford Heavy Duty Truck showing Quarter Windows - is from the original Australian Ford Truck Sales Brochure.
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Did the 1940 Australian Big Trucks have a cowl vent? I can’t tell from your photos. That might explain the use of 1/4 windows on trucks made in Australia.
 
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Australia 1941 Ford Open Cab Pickup. Notice that it does not have V8 Pressings on the sides of the Hood, also it has wide trim on the Hood, thereby making it a 1941 model.
 
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