weight of the Model A engine block?

[DUNN1929]

I want to attach a chain lift to the ceiling joists of my garage to lift the engine out. I want to know how much the engine weighs. I have doubled up 2"X 10" joists that span about 14 feet. Any thoughts?

 

[Fred K-OR]

I think it is 400 to 500 pounds without ******. I am not sure but I kind of remember something like this.

 

[Napa Skip]

"The Ford Model A" by George DeAngelis, et al., lists 475 lbs including clutch and transmission (Section 2, page 18 of 2nd Edition). "How to Restore Your Model A" Volume 7 (Shipping Data on page 125) lists the following net weights:

456 lbs for A-6000 engine
517 lbs for AA-6000 engine
350 lbs for A-6005 engine.

Insofar as I could determine, none of the above specify whether this is the dry or wet weight, but I suspect it's dry.

Also, here are some weights extracted from various FordBarn posts (principally by Tom Wesenberg if I recall correctly):

473 lbs – engine, complete (w/clutch & transmission)
160 lbs – engine, short block (w/head studs & crank pulley)
25 lbs – cylinder head
19 lbs – flywheel housing
12 lbs – Pressure plate
63 lbs - flywheel
3 lbs – clutch disc
10 lbs – engine pan
3 lbs – dipper tray
3 lbs – valve cover
2 lbs – timing gear side cover
4 lbs – timing gear front cover
28 lbs - crankshaft
6-1/2 lbs – camshaft (w/nut)
1-1/2 lbs – piston (w/wristpin & rings)

Any corrections/additions would be appreciated.

 

[SeaSlugs]

all i know is i lifted my engine (oil and all) trans, and about 2 lbs of nuts with a come along and our garage joists (single 2X10) just fine.

i wouldnt lolly gag about it hanging there but it is enough to get it out of a truck or so.

also lifted the entire worm drive of my AA with the same setup. thats at least 900 lbs

 

[karasmer]

Just make sure that the tops of the 2x10's are secure so they do not flip over sideways on you.

 

[Tom Wesenberg]

Thanks Skip, here's the engine weights thread I started a couple years ago.

http://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39187&highlight=engine+weights

My friend cut 2 short pieces of 2 x 10 to screw between the 2 adjacent rafters for added support, then he ran a 6 x 6 across 4 rafters and looped a chain around the center of the 6 x 6. He has good support now.

 

[DUNN1929]

Thanks,
All very good information.

 

[Donvito]

Thanks Skip, here's the engine weights thread I started a couple years ago.

http://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39187&highlight=engine+weights

My friend cut 2 short pieces of 2 x 10 to screw between the 2 adjacent rafters for added support, then he ran a 6 x 6 across 4 rafters and looped a chain around the center of the 6 x 6. He has good support now.

That is the way I do it. It works well. Don't put all the weight on one rafter.

 

[Chuck Sea/Tac]

My garage had a plate on a beam, with a eye. I cut two 2x4s for a loose fit from floor to ceiling, and then lifted a flatV8 and me . Checked the 2x4s to see if the beam had moved. It hadn't. So I felt comfortable on how much I could lift. Chuck