Old Henry
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I only see one problem in this rebuild. Now, it's too nice to put back in the car it would look great displayed on a shelf in a retro 1930's-40's Ford Parts Dept.
I thought the same thing.
VanPelt 47 ****** Rebuild
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I thought the same thing.
Old Henry
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Here's the total bill for my transmission rebuild including shipping:
Transmission was sent March 21st and received back May 4th. Mac had warned me he was backed up and there would be a delay getting to mine.
I sent my transmission with two problems to fix: First gear shot, and popping out of second when holding back on a descent. First gear is now nice and smooth and quiet (required replacement of the cluster gear and the first gear). Unfortunately, second gear still pops out. Really annoying. In one email there was discussion about replacing the second gear. That wasn't done. May have solved the problem. Syncros all work well so that's nice, but they were working fine before.
As for the reasonableness of his charges, that can only be determined by knowing what all of his competitors charge for the same speed and quality of work. As I have no information about that I can not say. I feel fine about his charges. I just wish the second gear popping out would have gone away.
I did get a nice result from my new clutch from Ft. Wayne clutch - my nagging clutch chatter is gone - at least for now. Hope it stays away.
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Frank Miller
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Considering all was inspected and rebuilt I would make sure the shifter linkage is adjusted correctly.
rotorwrench
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Your cost in that overhaul is well above board the way I see it. Labor rate is right along the norms for this day and age and times reflect someone who knows what they are doing and how long it takes to do it. The only way you could have done better would be to buy the parts and do all the work yourself.
That second gear relies on the condition of that phosphor bronze bushing in there. If it gets loose or deteriorated it will be problematic. Another reason for folks to stick with mild or no EP in their transmission lubricant.
That second gear relies on the condition of that phosphor bronze bushing in there. If it gets loose or deteriorated it will be problematic. Another reason for folks to stick with mild or no EP in their transmission lubricant.
Old Henry
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I'm hoping Mack knew about that phosphor bronze bushing and replaced that as the possible cause of my problem. I sure don't know anything about it and didn't want to. That's why I sent it to him.
What is EP that you say to avoid in transmission oil? What oils have it to avoid and which ones don't that should be used?
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Old Henry
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Just sent a note to Mac to see what his thoughts are. We'll see. Hopefully he'll post them here so we'll all know.
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Old Henry
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I never asked Mac anything about cost. That was the least of my worries. All I wanted was a transmission that would work like it was designed that I could count on to take me wherever I wanted to go without any trouble. I just told him to do the best he could with the best parts he could get. Never discussed cost. It didn't matter to me as long as it got fixed. I learned long ago "You quickly forget the money you saved and long remember the junk you bought." I sent my transmission to the best that I knew with full confidence it would come back the best it could be. Maybe it did. If so, I'll just keep the bungi cord handy to hold it in gear crawling down the hills. Doesn't seem the best way. Certainly not what I wanted. But, maybe the best I can get.
Jeff/Illinois
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Agree. I wouldn't hesitate to send a ****** to Mac he is by far the best in his field from all to whom I have spoken with on this
I will send mine off to him as soon as I'm able to wrastle that bugger out of the truck.
I will send mine off to him as soon as I'm able to wrastle that bugger out of the truck.
JSeery
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EP is the Extreme Pressure additive that is added to gear oil. The EP content is indicated by the GL rating. GL-5 is has a high EP rating, GL-4 has a low EP rating. High levels of EP additives are required by modern rear axle gears but can damage (over time) yellow metals in transmissions. There are many past threads on this topic if anyone is interested in more detail.
JM 35 Sedan
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I agree with that. Just putting the linkage back where it was before transmission was removed for rebuild does not mean that it's correct. Mac knows enough about these early Ford transmissions to make sure whatever causes popping out of gear is corrected in the rebuild, and I'm sure he would have done that. Check linkage and adjust if necessary.
1942deluxe
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Also check the brass bushings on the steering column linkage and the linkage itself.
Old Henry
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Will check linkage and report. I replaced the bushings/grommets.
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rotorwrench
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The 51A-7102 intermediate gear is an assembly. I've never seen the bushing sold separately due to it being so thin. A person just has to replace the whole assembly if the bushing is worn.
I think Mac has to modify now to use the 81A-7102 due to lack of availability of the 51A part so this can get expensive. The older type part has to have the earlier type main shaft with the locking pin to work if I remember correctly. If you can find an NOS 51A-7102 then it would just be a single replacement. Big if there. I haven't seen one on flea-pay for a long time and folks bid them up that know what they are.
I think Mac has to modify now to use the 81A-7102 due to lack of availability of the 51A part so this can get expensive. The older type part has to have the earlier type main shaft with the locking pin to work if I remember correctly. If you can find an NOS 51A-7102 then it would just be a single replacement. Big if there. I haven't seen one on flea-pay for a long time and folks bid them up that know what they are.
Old Henry
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Good to know. I just checked the jar of oil I just put in and it had both of those numbers on them - GL-4 and GL-5. I'll try to find just GL-4 next time I change the transmission oil.
JSeery
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Both rating appear because GL-5 is backward compatible with GL-4 EXCEPT for the yellow metal issue. It's a shame to expose new syncros to GL-5, if it was me I would drain the GL-5 out and replace it. Some GL-5 gear lubes claim to be compatible with yellow metals, might check that out.