V8 Total Engine Production
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corvette8n
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I don't know if there is a definitive number but I have heard about 12 million made, there are industrial engines out there also, not sure how many the French built later.
And German.
big job
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I do know Chrysler Canada produced the X265 CID 'flathead" well into
the 1970's. Industrial units also Chrysler Marine basically a punched out
251 We recently did a late one, the hints are, alternator, spin on oil
filter and electronic ignition...does that help ? sam
VeryTangled
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Hello Everyone, JAKEFORD, You’ve asked an interesting question.
I just grabbed the V-8 Club, 35-36 restoration guide by Swanberg and Rogers. Page 4: “Production numbers for 1935 start with 18-1,234,357 and end with 18-2,207,110 and numbers for 1936 start with 18-2,207,111 and end with 18-3,331,856.”
So I subtracted 1234357 from 3331856 and got 2,097,499. So for 1935 and 1936 production, I found numbers that add nearly 2.1 million to your tally sheet.
I just grabbed the V-8 Club, 35-36 restoration guide by Swanberg and Rogers. Page 4: “Production numbers for 1935 start with 18-1,234,357 and end with 18-2,207,110 and numbers for 1936 start with 18-2,207,111 and end with 18-3,331,856.”
So I subtracted 1234357 from 3331856 and got 2,097,499. So for 1935 and 1936 production, I found numbers that add nearly 2.1 million to your tally sheet.
Sam, you're talking about an inline six cylinder engine built by Chrysler. Hardly a Ford V8! The "Simca/Chrysler" reference is to the French version of Ford's 'little' 60 HP flathead V8 used by Simca until they were bought out by Chrysler, who quickly phased out that engine. Can't have a Ford engine in a Chrysler product!
But not before they put some monkey motion heads on the Little 60.
To the original poster, are we also including British built V8's? The 1937 style 21 stud built into the 50's in Pilots and Thames commercial stuff?
I guess not the frog ones from the eighties and nineties, as you asked till 53. Would be 54 in Canada.
Martin.
Bruce Lancaster
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221 numbers and 239 numbers were kept in one numerical sequence each for USA numbers, which were also used on British and I think German units...
Numbers were assigned to all engines (usually engine/trans units) built at factory to running order. Note that this would not cover replacement bare, short, or long blocks, only fully functioning ones with carbs and ignition.
The lists I have list 221 numbers only to 1942, but MANY 221's were built wartime and 221 engines were produced in England until I think 1954, and I have seen occasional numbers on these way beyond the 1942 level...so these can't really be counted until more records appear.
For 239's, you can get a partial but probably almost complete count by looking at the last listed 1948 number...that would be the basic count up from 99-1 in 1939. You can see if you look at '42 and '46 that the wartime numbers are in the count. I think more numbers were used in Germany up to around 1954, and quite possibly Ford built some running replacement motors after '48...they pretty certainly made lots of blocks post '48.
The numbers for 221 I have seen simply end with 1942, numbers for wartime and British postwar production not there. They must exist somewhere!
60's were built for a long time after 1940, and i have NO idea which ones outside of England got Ford numbers and which/when switched to different numberings when sold off to the French.
Numbers were assigned to all engines (usually engine/trans units) built at factory to running order. Note that this would not cover replacement bare, short, or long blocks, only fully functioning ones with carbs and ignition.
The lists I have list 221 numbers only to 1942, but MANY 221's were built wartime and 221 engines were produced in England until I think 1954, and I have seen occasional numbers on these way beyond the 1942 level...so these can't really be counted until more records appear.
For 239's, you can get a partial but probably almost complete count by looking at the last listed 1948 number...that would be the basic count up from 99-1 in 1939. You can see if you look at '42 and '46 that the wartime numbers are in the count. I think more numbers were used in Germany up to around 1954, and quite possibly Ford built some running replacement motors after '48...they pretty certainly made lots of blocks post '48.
The numbers for 221 I have seen simply end with 1942, numbers for wartime and British postwar production not there. They must exist somewhere!
60's were built for a long time after 1940, and i have NO idea which ones outside of England got Ford numbers and which/when switched to different numberings when sold off to the French.