Used pistons, does anyone save them?

What size are the merc pistons? I'm in need of 2 @ .030+ , I have six with 5000 miles on them. As for magnaflux, I'm sure there is a suitable alternative for non ferrous stuff. Must be common in aviation. Something with ultra-violet dyes or some such.

I’ll check. I think 60 over
 
What size are the merc pistons? I'm in need of 2 @ .030+ , I have six with 5000 miles on them. As for magnaflux, I'm sure there is a suitable alternative for non ferrous stuff. Must be common in aviation. Something with ultra-violet dyes or some such.

I went out to shop and checked, 4 maybe 5 60 over pistons. They would have to be checked over pretty carefully.
 
Can you magaflux aluminum?
According to Mr. AL Overview, Mr cadillac is right!

AI Overview:

Yes, Magnaflux can be used on aluminum. Magnaflux is a non-destructive testing (NDT) method that uses magnetic particles or dye penetrants to detect cracks and flaws in materials.
 
Most pistons collapse after decent use and are junk even if the ring glands are fine.

I'd consider used pistons in an engine just a refreshening, and not a rebuild. I personally wouldn't go to the effort of pulling and tearing down an engine to put used parts in them. But apparently there's a market.

Those words would be the dividing line for me. refreshing vs. rebuilding. but as kids all our rebuilds were little more than a serious refresh. teardown included!

parts apart, then clean. inspect. hand labor-clean surface head. block deck serviced, clean all mating surfaces, shim rods, shim mains (if needed, usually was!)... refit if worn thru babbitt, paint accordingly. deglaze bores, hand or hone, decarbon pistons, lap valves, shim springs. new parts-gasket kit, sealer, tune up parts, carb overhaul, cam timing gear, rings, belts, etc. I forget costs then, but doubt it was much more than $100, maybe bit less. on first start usually, most of the 'age' was gone, and if still had a knock... oh well... 'run what cha brung!' :D
 
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I suspect the majority follow the same logic.

Nobody here is suggesting that we should spend 4000.00 on machine work and all those new internals and then install a set of used pistons in the holes. The used (measured and inspected) pistons come into play when we are overhauling an engine for what is most often for our own personal use, and using other tested and inspected used parts as well. I have a great Lisle ridge reamer, a Sioux valve surfacer and three complete seat grinding outfits. Sioux,Black and Decker and VanDorn. All of this equipment was given to me at different times by different people that noticed I take an interest in using the old equipment. I have also wound a strong electromagnet and bought the powder for block magnafluxing and built the block off plates for pressure testing the blocks as well. My guide, long before the internet, has been my aforementioned 'Repair Manual' published for the Ford Motor Company, 'service dept' for Ford and Mercury V8 engines 78-81a-59a series. Publication 3666-48D June 18, 1948.
I have owned and ressurected no fewer than 20 Fh V8 trucks in the last 35 years and overhauled an estimated 8 of their engines with no failures that I know of to date using this manual. These vehicles have served me very well and hauled many tons of logs and lumber for my sawmill and woodshop. Lately it's just as likely I'll be hauling grandkids, but the overhauled engines have never let me down, no matter what I require of them. Last winter I broke tradition and took a crack free 8ba block to a machine shop specializing in vintage engines and I then assembled it with primarily used parts and a previously reground 4" crank. Having no .125+ merc pistons in my piston stash, the machine shop provided new 'store bought' ones which came in a Speedway box. Here's a link to the thread on the subject. A lot of us here had a great time 'working together' on this rather unconventional build.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=336892&highlight=276+stroker+parts
 
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When I first started working at a Caterpillar dealership we had official Caterpillar guides for reusability of parts. Engines and transmissions, hydraulic pumps, differentials, all of it basically. Even transmission discs and plates. If it checked out, you reused it and it was all documented.

Over the years the labor exceeded the savings (most cases) and Cat would have to cover the warranty instead of the dealership.

Gary and others doing their own personal project don't have the labor or warranty in the equation. They just have the budget as priority. Experience and following the reuse guide minimizes the risk. Success or failure is ultimately their responsibility. "Labor" is actually not applicable to guys like Gary, Mart and I'm sure others. They LOVE it too much to consider it work. Joy is probably a more accurate term.

I also see the other's point of view. Especially if it's for a customer or you just can't bring yourself to take that risk.
 
Nobody here is suggesting that we should spend 4000.00 on machine work and all those new internals and then install a set of used pistons in the holes. The used (measured and inspected) pistons come into play when we are overhauling an engine for what is most often for our own personal use, and using other tested and inspected used parts as well. I have a great Lisle ridge reamer, a Sioux valve surfacer and three complete seat grinding outfits. Sioux,Black and Decker and VanDorn. All of this equipment was given to me at different times by different people that noticed I take an interest in using the old equipment. I have also wound a strong electromagnet and bought the powder for block magnafluxing and built the block off plates for pressure testing the blocks as well. My guide, long before the internet, has been my aforementioned 'Repair Manual' published for the Ford Motor Company, 'service dept' for Ford and Mercury V8 engines 78-81a-59a series. Publication 3666-48D June 18, 1948.
I have owned and ressurected no fewer than 20 Fh V8 trucks in the last 35 years and overhauled an estimated 8 of their engines with no failures that I know of to date using this manual. These vehicles have served me very well and hauled many tons of logs and lumber for my sawmill and woodshop. Lately it's just as likely I'll be hauling grandkids, but the overhauled engines have never let me down, no matter what I require of them. Last winter I broke tradition and took a crack free 8ba block to a machine shop specializing in vintage engines and I then assembled it with primarily used parts and a previously reground 4" crank. Having no .125+ merc pistons in my piston stash, the machine shop provided new 'store bought' ones which came in a Speedway box. Here's a link to the thread on the subject. A lot of us here had a great time 'working together' on this rather unconventional build.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=336892&highlight=276+stroker+parts

My friend is well into his eighties and has been playing with flatheads for a long time. He grinds his own valves, cuts ridges installs cam bearing. He has to send out for boring jobs and crank grinds. Probably over 3 hour round trip to a machine shop that he trusts. Those shops are disappearing around here. Actually I think he has to go 3 hours one way to a machine shop now.
The first mercury engine I bought from him was built with 30 over used pistons, new mains and cam bearing. Running on an engine stand when I bought it with good oil pressure. 1800 cad I’ve been more than happy with that. His prices have increased as he has to buy more new parts as his stash of of parts has diminished. The second engine I took to him, I has a bunch of nos parts but he condemned the block I found another block that was good with standard bore and he asked me if I wanted a good set of used pistons and I said yes. He did that one for less than a grand, running on the engine stand. I knew exactly what I was getting and have been more than happy. I have 3 running engines for small change, that I will never wear them all out.
If I won the lottery I would have a couple H&H flatheads.
 
My father is in the former camp. He likes to tell me about the times they rebuilt flatheads in the sandpits after hours at the local Esso station he worked at as a teenager.

He keeps saying you are fussing over too much and getting the darn thing running is half the battle. He would always say they are just 8 B&S motors cast together.

I guess I can see that point, but I also enjoy trying to ring every last hp out of them as well. That is another pursuit and not really relevant to the OP's comment.
 
Thanks so much for this acknowledgement that there is a place and a time for re-using parts. And yes, I love the process, perhaps as much as the most avid golfer or fisherman loves his.
 
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