Two-Door Ford and Mercury Wagons

[mercman from oz]

In Post 24, I showed a 1961 Ford Falcon Two Door Wagon that I saw in the USA. Imagine my surprise when I attended a local Swap Meet in Australia and saw a near identical 1961 Ford Falcon Two Door Wagon, a recent import from the USA.

 

[scicala]

Yes, I agree. Other than the galaxie full wheel covers on the other one, they appear identical.

Sal

 

[dmsfrr]

The car in post 24 doesn't have the roof rack & it's rub strips.

It's unusual that you came across two that are so similar, and they're still around.

.

 

[mercman from oz]

Here is another picture of the 1961 Ford Falcon Two Door Wagon in the USA. The Owner must have changed the 4 Stud 13" Wheels for 5 Stud 14" Wheels, otherwise the Galaxie Hubcaps would not have fitted. It is a pity that the front and rear hubcaps were not matching. The rears are 1962 Galaxie and the front 1963 Galaxie XL, judging from the Spinners. The same setup was on the other side. He could have put the matching Hubcaps on each side, which would have looked better. As has been mentioned, these are two different wagons. I had never seen one prior to seeing the one in the USA, then a few months later, I see a near identical one here, which is absolutely incredible.

 

[Alaska Jim]

yeah, you just don't see them very often up here in Alaska. there used to be several here in Anchorage in the mid '70's but the owners never wanted to sell them, and they all seemed to have gone to the great scrap yard in the sky, as I have not seen one up here for at least 15 years now, maybe longer

 

[mercman from oz]

I had never seen one before this year when I spotted one in California, then spotted a second one a few months later after I returned back home. Unbelievable. we had Falcon Wagons in Australia, but they didn't receive the annual upgrades that the USA models received, and no two door model was ever offered. Also, our local Falcon Wagons were shorter that the USA Wagons. The extra overhang of the USA models was too much for our road systems.

 

[mercman from oz]

Here is another Ford 2 door wagon from my files. 1954 Ford Ranch Wagon in Australia, still wearing California Plates.

 

[Alaska Jim]

I always wanted a 52-54 2dr wagon , never got one. guess I did not want it as bad as some others.

 

[BlacktopScraper]

Here's my '55

 

[mercman from oz]

BlacktopScraper, you didn't attach a picture?

 

[KULTULZ]

1958 EDSEL ROUNDUP

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[KULTULZ]

And in the Mercury dept is my 57 Mercury Commuter with the original M 335 engine

Oldmics

Your concern of vanity is showing as you did not mention the MERC's were HDTPS...

 

[Oldmics]

Merc built the ONLY 2-door hardtop wagons ever manufactured

All other hardtop wagons were 4 doors (moredoors as I like to refer to them)

Oldmics

 

[KULTULZ]

Here is a larger picture of Lowriders 1960 Ford Courier. All 1960 Ford Couriers had side windows like this one.

This was the last year for the full size Ford Courier. For 1961, this body style was transferred to the compact Ford Falcon.

Actually (and I am not trying to correct you here) there was a 1960 and 1961 2 DR RANCH WAGON (Series Code 61 - Body Type Code 59C) and a 1960 and 1961 2DR COMMERCIAL RANCH WAGON COURIER (Series Code 69 - Body Type Code 59E).

The Series Code is found within the VIN so that ID'ng one can possibly be made easier.

 

[KULTULZ]

Merc built the ONLY 2-door hardtop wagons ever manufactured

All other hardtop wagons were 4 doors (moredoors as I like to refer to them)

Oldmics

Coffee decaf this morning?

You forgot about the NOMAD and SAFARI wagons...

You are my mentor so you need to tighten up ...

 

[KULTULZ]

I tried to get to that web address, but had no luck. however I did find this-- the hot rod site is a pain in the but . to many pop up ads to wait through...

Jim,

Try This- https://adblockplus.org/

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[Oldmics]

Kultulz says

"Coffee decaf this morning?

You forgot about the NOMAD and SAFARI wagons..."


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No - those mentioned machines used a "B" pillar.

Therefore they are classified as sedans.

The Merc hardtop wagons did not use any sort of "B" pillar and went directly to the "C" pillar.

Even the use of the "C" pillar term on the Merc hardtop wagons is a debatable topic since the rear windows were not compleatly captive.

They could have been referred to as the "D" pillar.

For simplisticity sake lets just call the Merc hardtop wagons as using an "A","C" and "D" pillar.
Noting the missing "B" pillar since no hardtops have "B" pillars.

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You are my mentor so you need to tighten up ...

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If I am your mentor - we are circling the drain.

I think we grew up in the same neighborhood - just on opposit sides of the street.

Oldmics

 

[KULTULZ]

Kultulz says

"Coffee decaf this morning?

You forgot about the NOMAD and SAFARI wagons..."

No - those mentioned machines used a "B" pillar.

Therefore they are classified as sedans.

The Merc hardtop wagons did not use any sort of "B" pillar and went directly to the "C" pillar.

Even the use of the "C" pillar term on the Merc hardtop wagons is a debatable topic since the rear windows were not compleatly captive.

They could have been referred to as the "D" pillar.

For simplisticity sake lets just call the Merc hardtop wagons as using an "A","C" and "D" pillar.

Noting the missing "B" pillar since no hardtops have "B" pillars.

Hmm...

Got me again. I was thinking of the no glass frame door and did not think of the B-Pillar...

KULTULZ Then Posted
You are my mentor so you need to tighten up ...

Oldmics Replied

If I am your mentor - we are circling the drain.

Oldmics Then Posted

I think we grew up in the same neighborhood - just on opposit sides of the street.

Oldmics

You must be allergic to wool as I seem to be having a difficult time trying to pull it over your eyes...

sheesh ...

... hmm... NOMAD - CROWN VIC - Later RANCHERO ... curses ...

 

[scicala]

Actually (and I am not trying to correct you here) there was a 1960 and 1961 2 DR RANCH WAGON (Series Code 61 - Body Type Code 59C) and a 1960 and 1961 2DR COMMERCIAL RANCH WAGON COURIER (Series Code 69 - Body Type Code 59E).

The Series Code is found within the VIN so that ID'ng one can possibly be made easier.

So I'm assuming a 1960 Courier is the same as a Ranch Wagon minus the 2nd row seat.

Sal

 

[KULTULZ]

So I'm assuming a 1960 Courier is the same as a Ranch Wagon minus the 2nd row seat.

Sal

(IMO ONLY) ...

They are coded (and badged) differently and I think it is mainly trim detail, the COURIER being a stripped basic trim level.

It was just a cheaper way for FORD to provide two similar vehicles on the same platform.