Tudor variant
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1931 flamingo
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No idea, but certainly looks "neat". Could it be an after market body??
Paul in CT
Paul in CT
Oldbluoval
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I’m watching for something authoritative
But I’d “guess” it’s homemade
But I’d “guess” it’s homemade
McMimmcs
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Was it an individual or a professional that told you documentation existed. On the surface it looks very homemade.
johnbuckley
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Info was from Ford Amical France Club.
The photo perhaps does not do it justice. On examnination of the vehicle the standard of work indicates work by a professional, but whether at the Asnieres factory, a contemporary coach builder from new, or a later mod by a coach builder we just don't know.
Oldbluoval
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I’ve been around model a’s 60 years and that all new to me
But sure could be....something new everyday!!
But sure could be....something new everyday!!
Tudortomnz
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I have seen pics of French V8 60 sedan [Model 62?] produced with rear door like that, version of Dagenham model. I would try & contact a big Euro Model A group eg. Denmark & see if they know of any. Model A's move around a lot between countries.
Ford Germany did some Tudors with door same as Deluxe Delivery [ single, side opening but hinged for RHD, not LHD !]. Cheers.
Ford Germany did some Tudors with door same as Deluxe Delivery [ single, side opening but hinged for RHD, not LHD !]. Cheers.
Brad in Germany
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That horizontal split rear door on the Ford Model A was available in France either through the local Ford dealer or from a custom commercial body manufacturer.
Here is a photo from the Ford catalog (France) from December 1930 for example:
Those custom commercial bodies were most likely supplied to Ford by an independent custom body manufacturer .....most likely from Kelsch. Here, for example, is a copy of the era Kelsch flier showing that option available in either a Fordor or a Tudor version:
....and an original magazine advertisement for Kelsch custom commercial bodies that appeared in Le Fordiste magazine from 1930:
There were several other custom body manufacturers who also offered a similar custom commercial body, like these offered by Paris-Tracteur for example (from era Le Fordiste magazines):
....or this good looking Fordor version offered by Gaston Grummer & Cie (era sales flier):
But upon close examination of the photo John posted originally, based on the construction of the rear lower door, I would guess that the body of the one in the original photo is a "La Chatelaine", made by Carde & Fils. Here is an original sales flier showing that custom commercial body on a Tudor (note the two stiffeners in the center of the lower rear door):
Hope that answers some of the questions surrounding that custom commercial body on a Model A chassis from France.
Brad in Maryland (U.S.A.)
Here is a photo from the Ford catalog (France) from December 1930 for example:
Those custom commercial bodies were most likely supplied to Ford by an independent custom body manufacturer .....most likely from Kelsch. Here, for example, is a copy of the era Kelsch flier showing that option available in either a Fordor or a Tudor version:
....and an original magazine advertisement for Kelsch custom commercial bodies that appeared in Le Fordiste magazine from 1930:
There were several other custom body manufacturers who also offered a similar custom commercial body, like these offered by Paris-Tracteur for example (from era Le Fordiste magazines):
....or this good looking Fordor version offered by Gaston Grummer & Cie (era sales flier):
But upon close examination of the photo John posted originally, based on the construction of the rear lower door, I would guess that the body of the one in the original photo is a "La Chatelaine", made by Carde & Fils. Here is an original sales flier showing that custom commercial body on a Tudor (note the two stiffeners in the center of the lower rear door):
Hope that answers some of the questions surrounding that custom commercial body on a Model A chassis from France.
Brad in Maryland (U.S.A.)
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johnbuckley
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Brilliant! Thank you Brad.
Oldbluoval
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Wow!
That’s about as authoritative answer as one can expect....and more!
That’s about as authoritative answer as one can expect....and more!
@Brad in Maryland
Thanks to JohnBuckley I'm unearthing this post, I wanted to send a PM but I have insufficient privilege.
I was wondering if you had a better resolution of that Paris Tracteur brochure?
I don't know if you've seen the post I did on the AF delivery I bought earlier this year to which I'm not allowed to post a link.
It looks extremely similar to the one in the brochure except that mine is a 3 door.
I'm tring to find out who was the coachbuilder of mine and the Paris Tracteur brochure is the most promissing.
Thanks to JohnBuckley I'm unearthing this post, I wanted to send a PM but I have insufficient privilege.
I was wondering if you had a better resolution of that Paris Tracteur brochure?
I don't know if you've seen the post I did on the AF delivery I bought earlier this year to which I'm not allowed to post a link.
It looks extremely similar to the one in the brochure except that mine is a 3 door.
I'm tring to find out who was the coachbuilder of mine and the Paris Tracteur brochure is the most promissing.