Timing Gear Replacement Question

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Decided I better check my timing gear after seeing what looked like teeth during an oil change. Sure enough, timing gear pretty chewed up. Lined up the gears timing marks then removed the old fiber timing gear without much difficulty. Did not move the crank. Replaced with a new fiber gear but when I align the gear timing marks, the pin holes for the new gear do not line up. When the pins are properly lined up, the index marks are off (new gear photo). I would think the pins and the index marks should all line up if I did not move the crank. Could not find an explanation in the search. What am I missing?
 

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The valve springs push on the cams and turn the cam shaft after the gear is removed. Line up the timing marks.

Your new gear should last a long time, but the aluminum gears last longer.
 
Are the index pins off by a lot when the new gear is placed with the hole matching the crank gear hole, or just a couple degrees? If you put the old and new gears side by side, do the holes appear to be in the same position?
 
With the timing gear off the pressure from a couple of the valve springs will kick the cam off a little bit.It won't stay in the position you left it at.It probably jumped when you removed the gear,but you just didn't see it.
 
With the gears teeth cut on an angle (helical) just removing the timing gear will turn the cam, as a school teacher use to say try try again !
 
Well, that old gear was certainly ready for retirement! Good that you caught it before it failed on the road.
 
Thanks for all the input. I didn't realize the cam gear would move with removal. If I line up the off-center cam pins on the new gear, the index marks are off as you can see in the new gear photo. If I instead line up the timing index marks so they are directly opposed, the timing gear pin holes do not line up and the new timing gear doesn't fit. How do I adjust in order to line up both the pins and the timing marks? I'm afraid to move the crankshaft until I check first.
 
Are the index pins off by a lot when the new gear is placed with the hole matching the crank gear hole, or just a couple degrees? If you put the old and new gears side by side, do the holes appear to be in the same position?

Yes. The off-set holes and the timing pin depression site line up exactly
 
You start the gear into the crank gear with the marks lined up,and when it touches the two pins you turn the cam until they line up and slide into the holes in the gear.You can turn the cam with something like a skinny phillips screwdriver.It's trial and error,it will take a few passes your first time.
 
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You start the gear into the crank gear with the marks lined up,and when it touches the two pins you turn the cam until they line up and slide into the holes in the gear.You can turn the cam with something like a skinny phillips screwdriver.It's trial and error,it will take a few passes your first time.
Thank you. So rotate the cam (not the crank) to line up the pins with the new gear. Seems like an important step that was left out of Les Andrews red book unless I'm reading it incorrectly. Appreciate the forum's expertise.
 
I think it's not in a book because it's one of those things mechanics just know how to do.All manuals are written assuming the user has some sort of general mechanical knowledge.Things like knowing when to use the little hammer instead of the big one.
 
Turn the cam or turn the crank, it doesn't matter as long as you end up with the gears dot to dot when your done
 
Success (once informed of the trick). Thanks for all the advice.
 

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