Thinking about upgrading from Model A to Early V8
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Re: Thinking about upgrading form Model A to Early V8
Years ago, a buddy of mine with. Model A Victoria and I did a drive comparison between his A and my ‘32 Victoria. There was a huge difference in smoothness and power, and ride comfort and sense of stability. I have two A’s and they were my first love, but V8’s are so much more comfortable. That said, a Model A will almost always start, and if a V8 sits for a while, you’ll sometimes be messing with it for a while to get it running. They are different beasts, and I love the total engagement of driving a Model A, but if you want more comfort and the ability to feel a bit more confident out in today’s traffic, a V8 is better in my opinion. I’ve never owned a ‘35 or ‘36, but I’m sure they were a solid advancement from my ‘32. And they’re more expensive than something like a ‘42-48. ‘49-53 are better drivers yet. It’s really a matter of taste and desire. It would be great to keep the A and find a nice running V8 in a less costly body style!!??? Good luck; there are no wrong answers with old Fords if you like to drive them.
Years ago, a buddy of mine with. Model A Victoria and I did a drive comparison between his A and my ‘32 Victoria. There was a huge difference in smoothness and power, and ride comfort and sense of stability. I have two A’s and they were my first love, but V8’s are so much more comfortable. That said, a Model A will almost always start, and if a V8 sits for a while, you’ll sometimes be messing with it for a while to get it running. They are different beasts, and I love the total engagement of driving a Model A, but if you want more comfort and the ability to feel a bit more confident out in today’s traffic, a V8 is better in my opinion. I’ve never owned a ‘35 or ‘36, but I’m sure they were a solid advancement from my ‘32. And they’re more expensive than something like a ‘42-48. ‘49-53 are better drivers yet. It’s really a matter of taste and desire. It would be great to keep the A and find a nice running V8 in a less costly body style!!??? Good luck; there are no wrong answers with old Fords if you like to drive them.
The Art Doctor
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Re: Thinking about upgrading form Model A to Early V8
For pre-war I'd recommend checking out a 39 for floor shift or 40 for column shift. You get hydraulic brakes, better transmission shifting and a much improved steering box and geometry over the earlier cars plus increased cabin room. You might find 35-38's that have been modified with some of these attributes as well. Post war early V8's are an absolute bargain. 46-48 cars are so insanely cheap to buy these day. They offer more refined mechanicals, ride quality, driveability and even larger cabins in comparison. I have a 34, 40 and a 47 from brand X and each has its pluses and minuses. Its a buyers market, try on a lot for size before you decide.
For pre-war I'd recommend checking out a 39 for floor shift or 40 for column shift. You get hydraulic brakes, better transmission shifting and a much improved steering box and geometry over the earlier cars plus increased cabin room. You might find 35-38's that have been modified with some of these attributes as well. Post war early V8's are an absolute bargain. 46-48 cars are so insanely cheap to buy these day. They offer more refined mechanicals, ride quality, driveability and even larger cabins in comparison. I have a 34, 40 and a 47 from brand X and each has its pluses and minuses. Its a buyers market, try on a lot for size before you decide.
ford38v8
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Re: Thinking about upgrading form Model A to Early V8
By sweet spot, I assume you mean the intersection of price and desirability.
3W any year & '39-'40 5W = most valuable.
'37 & up has best steering & transmission, '39 is best floor shift. Early column shift can be a bit troublesome.
'37-'38 has best mechanical brakes, hydraulic started in '39 being not so good for seldom driven cars. Comfort of the 30's is spartan early, comfort later. '37-'38 used to be ugly ducklings, the coupes less desirable & lower cost, have now gained their rightful place in the mix. Overall the best combination of comfort, reliability, & value, just my opinion, don't look at my avatar.
Hi Early V8 members,
I am considering selling the Model A and purchasing a mid '30's Ford V8 coupe. What I am looking for is the sweet spot of the 1930's. The 1932 to '34's are typically too expensive for my budget. I am thinking a '35 or '36. What say you?
By sweet spot, I assume you mean the intersection of price and desirability.
3W any year & '39-'40 5W = most valuable.
'37 & up has best steering & transmission, '39 is best floor shift. Early column shift can be a bit troublesome.
'37-'38 has best mechanical brakes, hydraulic started in '39 being not so good for seldom driven cars. Comfort of the 30's is spartan early, comfort later. '37-'38 used to be ugly ducklings, the coupes less desirable & lower cost, have now gained their rightful place in the mix. Overall the best combination of comfort, reliability, & value, just my opinion, don't look at my avatar.
hueyhoolihan
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Re: Thinking about upgrading form Model A to Early V8
...love my '41.
...love my '41.
AzBob
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Thanks to all who have replied. Plenty of food for thought moving forward.
Bruce_MO "It would be great to keep the A and find a nice running V8 in a less costly body style!!???”
That would be the best of both worlds. However, due to limited space only have room for one old car at a time. Thanks for the “A” to “V8” driving experience.
The Art Doctor "You might find ’35-'38's that have been modified with some of these attributes as well."
I have seen a few for sale with a later flathead V8 and transmission installed. I would be ok with that as long as the swap was neat and done correctly.
ford38v8 "By sweet spot, I assume you mean the intersection of price and desirability.”
Correct. Thanks for pointing out the advantages of ’37 - ’38’s and what to consider regarding hydraulic brakes on the ’39.
hueyhoolihan"...love my ’41.”
I’ll bet your ’41 is a hoot to drive.
Planojc"35,36,38,39 would be my choice, but if you want a long distance, ride, go with a 50, 51.”
Not doing long distance only local drives thank you.
47topless "A 38' Ford standard coupe has a beautiful front clip."
I agree.
Bruce_MO "It would be great to keep the A and find a nice running V8 in a less costly body style!!???”
That would be the best of both worlds. However, due to limited space only have room for one old car at a time. Thanks for the “A” to “V8” driving experience.
The Art Doctor "You might find ’35-'38's that have been modified with some of these attributes as well."
I have seen a few for sale with a later flathead V8 and transmission installed. I would be ok with that as long as the swap was neat and done correctly.
ford38v8 "By sweet spot, I assume you mean the intersection of price and desirability.”
Correct. Thanks for pointing out the advantages of ’37 - ’38’s and what to consider regarding hydraulic brakes on the ’39.
hueyhoolihan"...love my ’41.”
I’ll bet your ’41 is a hoot to drive.
Planojc"35,36,38,39 would be my choice, but if you want a long distance, ride, go with a 50, 51.”
Not doing long distance only local drives thank you.
47topless "A 38' Ford standard coupe has a beautiful front clip."
I agree.
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Bored&Stroked
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Hard to pick - it all depends on what style you like, what mechanical abilities you have to work on, restore and maintain a car. As others have said, a 39+ car will have better brakes, steering and ride (and room), but you have to also like the car itself. I love the looks of 36 Fords, but they are pricey if you're looking for a 3-window coupe . . . 5 windows are cheaper and 2-door sedans are quite common. But, the running gear is sort of 1-year only (though it can be upgraded).
If you're into sedans, one can find quite a few 2-door sedans at affordable prices - and they can haul people and "stuff" a lot better than other models (on the inside that is).
I'd look for the highest quality car you can find and go for it!
If you're into sedans, one can find quite a few 2-door sedans at affordable prices - and they can haul people and "stuff" a lot better than other models (on the inside that is).
I'd look for the highest quality car you can find and go for it!
rotorwrench
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I'll never own all the cars on my bucket list but there's nothing wrong with doing more than one. Ford made exceptional cars during the time of Edsel Ford's control of design. Having Bob Gregorie to help was also a good thing. A lot o folks don't know that Edsel signed off on the car that became the 1949 Mercury before he died. The war got in the way so it had to wait till 1949 but at least it came to pass.
The later the year of manufacture, the more complex they get and the fact they have more comfort and power doesn't hurt either. The Model Ts and As will still have their place for fun and simplicity. They are easier to restore as well. The next owner will get to experience that too. My Pop had a 1935 Ford standard Tudor during the war. He went from one end of the country to the other during his flight training and that old car got him through it.
The later the year of manufacture, the more complex they get and the fact they have more comfort and power doesn't hurt either. The Model Ts and As will still have their place for fun and simplicity. They are easier to restore as well. The next owner will get to experience that too. My Pop had a 1935 Ford standard Tudor during the war. He went from one end of the country to the other during his flight training and that old car got him through it.
AzBob
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Grand Dad’s 1936? pickup and Dad’s 1939 standard coupe (I think.) Not long after his return from service in WWII. These old Fords are in my DNA.
House and cars are long gone.
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petehoovie
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Grand Dad’s 1936? pickup and Dad’s 1939 standard coupe (I think.) Not long after his return from service in WWII. These old Fords are in my DNA.
House and cars are long gone.
petehoovie
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Re: Thinking about upgrading form Model A to Early V8
The '38 STANDARD would be my choice as well...
GB SISSON
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This unrestored one showed up today on FB marketplace. It's more my style than the blue one in Tennesee and I can see Whidbey Island from my kitchen window. (View is directly at NAS Whidbey), the coupe is just a little South of there. But alas, not in the cards for me. If a person wants a restored car, just buy a finished one, not this one. Way ahead in $ that way. But.... How cool to get it running/driving and bomb around Orcas Island in this thing?
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AzBob
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@petehoovie
Thanks for the enlargement. I have tried to do that myself using different attach methods always posts as a thumbnail.
GB Sisson, thanks for the link to the ’39 standard coupe. Looking for one in a little better condition. Agree would be fun “bombing around” Orcas Island in it.
I’m going by advice often seen on the forums. “Buy one in the best condition you can afford.”
Thanks for the enlargement. I have tried to do that myself using different attach methods always posts as a thumbnail.
GB Sisson, thanks for the link to the ’39 standard coupe. Looking for one in a little better condition. Agree would be fun “bombing around” Orcas Island in it.
I’m going by advice often seen on the forums. “Buy one in the best condition you can afford.”
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farmertom
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Hi Early V8 members,
I am considering selling the Model A and purchasing a mid '30's Ford V8 coupe. What I am looking for is the sweet spot of the 1930's. The 1932 to '34's are typically too expensive for my budget. I am thinking a '35 or '36. What say you?
AZ Bob,i am considering selling my '37 fordor sedan.i love the car but as my body fails me besides having both hip joints replaced its getting harder to do the maintence required.im thinking of getting into a little more modern car say like a '51,'52,'53,'54 that i could drive and tinker on. nobody here will work on the early fords. the '37 before me was owned by a man since 1956 and kept in a climate controlled garage un till i purchased in 2000. in the six yrs ive done a considerable amount to it.new carb,front seat belts,wired in led third brake light, new modern radial tires,new 6volt battery,im sure there is more.i have a folder full of receips from po and myself. Tom.
Seth Swoboda
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I will say that my '37 Tudor is the best running and driving V8 I've ever had. The '37 models and up have a better steering box. I have the '39 synchronizer in the transmission also. The car will flat run 65-70 mph comfortably. Having said this, none of my cars a junkers. Some have older paint jobs but all are mechanically reliable.
GB SISSON
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@petehoovie
Thanks for the enlargement. I have tried to do that myself using different attach methods always posts as a thumbnail.
GB Sisson, thanks for the link to the ’39 standard coupe. Looking for one in a little better condition. Agree would be fun “bombing around” Orcas Island in it.
I’m going by advice often seen on the forums. “Buy one in the best condition you can afford.”
Totally get that. I'm pretty spoiled because our old cars and trucks are real easy at the island's 40 mph top speed. Nobody up ahead in your 70 mph lane stomping on their 4 wheel disc abs brakes.