Things forgot about when it came to judging...

Jim Mason said:
no need to argue with him Mark. Obviously he has his mind made up, was there in 1928, or has extensively researched the surviving originals. He also has been in fine point enough to know that over restored paint does not garner full points, base clear won't either, nor will 20 coat lacquer...oh wait, he's not serious about fine point and chooses to insult from the cheap seats. Just turn on the twit filter and ignore him as he should choose to ignore me.
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I guess your write Jim.. so be it...thats what makes the world and hobby fun...I guess!
 
BOY ! You guys with the over-restored cars sure are thin skinned !
You guys are also reading too much into my comments. I never "slammed" the over-restored cars. I appreciate looking at them as much as anybody. I just say that they did not look like that coming off the assembly line.
MIKE :)
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1.Did not have time to red stripe my Firestone tires or paint the logo 2. could not find my tire pump when I laid out my tools, found it in the garage when I got home, just forgot to put it in the A.

Ron
 
At the 2004 MAFCA meet in Portland I was way behind schedule and arrived the day before judging with a day worth of prep to do. I discovered I left some of my tools (including the jack) on the shelf at home and no way to get them to Portland. To add insult to injury I learned I had just two hours and had to do prelim judging and put the car inside a building for the afternoon and night so my prep time was all but gone. I hadn't lubed and spun up the horn so that didn't work properly when judged for function on the way into the building. NOT my best day!!!
 
Hey Mike,

I was going through some old photos. You had said, 'Sure, the originals, have a nice shine, but .............’ 'I forgot to give my "A", a $10,000.00 paint job.'

Here is a photo of a nice original '29 Fordor that I used to own. It has about 32,000 miles on it. (Go to Jim Mason's website to see more photos of it.)

Perhaps this is better rubbed out, waxed than when it came off of the assembly line but maybe not. The point being is that this is the original paint on this Fordor. The depth in that Andalusite Blue is amazing.


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I forgot something once in judging but survived it. I was supposed to pick up the clock for a car and an emergency precluded that move. Couldn't get it until Mon, show was Sat, this was Fri afternoon. Borrowed another clock that didn't work. Now I'm not 100% proud of this but...

Gloveboxes are considered private areas and not opened for judging. I wound up an older alarm clock and stuck it in the glovebox on that side. When judging began I had the clock stem down enough to set the time very casually. The judges checked the clock's time, then the team leader asked, "Is it ticking, can you hear it?" of another judge. "...yeah, it's ticking." When judging was over I had advanced the time another 5min in case they took another look.

There were a couple guys who'd trade their side curtains and top boots during shows just to show they "had it" for their cars. The things folks do for 2pts...
 
Dean/Boz, as wonderful as that looks, it doesn't compare to the "love" that a restorer or professional finisher gives these cars. It doesn't make sense to under-do paint and body work, and the difficulty in trying to replicate every aspect of the OEM mat'l and finish can be costly. There's some tricks we can do, most don't. 99% of the people paying for refinish want the best there is also, judging be damned. Does it look good? Sure it does, but nothing compares to the real thing in the refinish world today. It can indeed be done, for a price. Modern car restorations (like 50s and musclecar stuff) can be easily duplicated. Production polished finishes, not so much. I'd argue with Mike were he to say that about the more pricey cars of the 30s, as many of those were indeed surfaced to the nth degree. 4 million Model As, not so much, but really nice and that new metal straightness we all want.
 
Hi Mike i think you have misted the point these guys can put a $ 10.000 paint job on there cars and make them better than new or we can put in an overdrive and a few other goodies on or build our cars to suit ourselfs that is what our men are fighting for overseas freedom have a great day Steve
 
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