Steering gear I.D. help

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tc_mits

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Hi everyone, I need help trying to figure out what steering gear this is. It's in a 1930 wagon and from what I can tell it looks like a steering box from a 55' F100, but the thing at the arrow is pointing to is throwing me for a loop. Any help is greatly appreciated!
 

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The item you are asking about is the light switch. There is a rod from it up to the middle of the steering wheel where you operate the lights.
 
Thank you cadillac512 and Synchro909! I also now see where the paul moller book(model a restoration and maintenance, vol 2) points that out(page 40... duh).

Marshall, on this particular one there is indeed a remote start switch. My dad came across this for sale locally here in MN.
 
In the right picture of post #1 it looks like the light switch is upside down, should look like my picture.
 

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Bob,the switch and box you are showing is not the F1 box in his car.It should have the 4 little bolts holding on the plate that holds the switch.I'll do stuff like that because I can't see the thumbnails,even with a magnifying glass.I just thought of something,are you showing a picture of your own just to show how it should/shouldn't be be?
 
I believe that is a F-100 Box. A 7 tooth would have the column welded to the box and only 2 bolts on the light switch adaptor (light switch bracket, as Snyder's calls it). And yes, Bob C is correct, the light switch is upside down.

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Bruce of MN said:
How are volume 1 and 2 different and is volume 2 the better choice? I have the red Les Andrews book, but more info is good.
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Volume 1 seems a good overview of different things(e.g., carburetor, distributor, ammeter, brakes, etc.) and goes into the brakes a water pump a bit more than the others. Volume 2 has the steering column information and goes into a bit more depth with that and a few others(generator, transmission).

I think at the time it made sense to get both pricewise; oddly enough, volume 2 ended up being better for what I needed, which was the steering and transmission, however I'm glad I have volume 1 just in case. I'm planning on getting the red Les Andrews book; keep hearing good things.
 
Randy Gross does a lot of early F100 steering gear set ups and they can be adapted for the light switch installation. The F1 gear has the worm in a bit different location but it can also be adapted for Model As.
 
Thanks for all the replies everyone; I feel more confident it's an F1 or F100 box rather than a stock box, and though I feel a bit sheepish regarding the light switch, I really appreciate you all for clearing that up.
 
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Volume 1 seems a good overview of different things(e.g., carburetor, distributor, ammeter, brakes, etc.) and goes into the brakes a water pump a bit more than the others. Volume 2 has the steering column information and goes into a bit more depth with that and a few others(generator, transmission).

I think at the time it made sense to get both pricewise; oddly enough, volume 2 ended up being better for what I needed, which was the steering and transmission, however I'm glad I have volume 1 just in case. I'm planning on getting the red Les Andrews book; keep hearing good things.
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Thanks!
 
That box is a F100 box. We build these (for 30 years now) and include the bottom light switch bracket so that everything works like the original set-up (Lights and Horn). A F1 box will not work in a Model A unless you relocate the frame mounting spot.
Randy Gross
 
Mel Gross said:
That box is a F100 box. We build these (for 30 years now) and include the bottom light switch bracket so that everything works like the original set-up (Lights and Horn). A F1 box will not work in a Model A unless you relocate the frame mounting spot.
Randy Gross
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Thanks Randy for your input. I hope all is well.
 
Given your model year (30-31) you probably have the Twolight system.

If that is the case then you can use the available wiring harness which has a plate with up to twelve "brass rivets." Your light switch works Off-Low-high-park.

If you have "Type H" headlights with a single bulb, you have to either convert everything to Twolight - or find a way to "mix & match" parts together to make something that works. (Type H: park-off-headlight, poss. Low-Off-High)

Twolight System was adopted by Ford in March-April 1929 with some Type H hanging on in production into the summer.

Joe K
 
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