1930 Cabriolet
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Would somebody tell me the proper way to start a cold engine? Please.
My email address is pcrpnj2@aol.com Thank you.
My email address is pcrpnj2@aol.com Thank you.
Starting a cold engine
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Patrick L.
Well-known member
How cold ?
Turn on fuel
open GAV 1/2 extra turn
left lever up
right lever down couple clicks
key on
press start switch
pull choke out for couple/several engine revolutions then release
should be running by now
Turn on fuel
open GAV 1/2 extra turn
left lever up
right lever down couple clicks
key on
press start switch
pull choke out for couple/several engine revolutions then release
should be running by now
rscardina
Senior Member
Try this link.
http://modelabasics.com/Starting%20&%20Driving.htm
http://modelabasics.com/Starting%20&%20Driving.htm
pgerhardt
Well-known member
I have emailed you the PDF version of this check list.
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All these steps listed do quickly become second nature and as you become attuned to the sound of your engine, you will learn what makes it happy. One neat thing about an A is that you as the driver are totally involved in its operation. You might say an A is 100% computer controlled (the computer between your ears, that is)! Ignition timing, fuel mixture, throttle opening, choke control, transmission gear selection, vehicle speed and direction are all controlled by the gray matter computer, which directs the proper 'servos' to actuate the appropiate levers and pedals.
Mike V. Florida
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ian Simpson
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From the Ford Model A Instruction Manual
Before Starting the Engine
Be sure the gear shift lever is in neutral position, i. e., the position in which it can be moved freely from side to side.
Advance the throttle lever located under the steering wheel (right hand side) about three notches, or until the accelerator pedal moves slightly downward.
Pulling down the throttle lever or pressing on the accelerator pedal, controls the quantity of gas entering the cylinders, and regulates the Figure t speed of the engine.
Place the spark lever (left hand) at the top of the quadrant (the notched quarter-circle on which the lever is operated). This is the retard position. T he spark lever regulates the timing of the spark which explodes the gas in the cylinders. Always retard the spark lever when starting your car. Starting the engine with the spark advanced may cause the engine to kick back, and damage the starter parts.
After the engine is started, advance the spark lever about half way down the quadrant.
Starting the Engine
1. Release the lock cylinder by turning the switch key to the right as described on Page 6.
2. See that the spark lever is retarded; the throttle lever advanced three or four notches on the quadrant and the gear shift lever in neutral position.
3. If the engine is cold, turn the carburetor adjusting rod one full turn to the left to give it a richer mixture for starting. This rod serves both as a choke for starting and as an enriching adjustment. Next pull back the rod, at the same time pressing down on the starter button with your foot. The instant the engine starts, withdraw your foot from the starter button and release the choke rod, next advance the spark lever about half way down the quadrant.
When the engine warms up, turn the adjusting rod back to the right. Never drive continuously with adjusting rod more than ~turn open. (See Adjustment of Carburetor, Page 24.)
When starting a warm engine, do not pull back the choke unless the engine fails to start on the normal mixture as there is a possibility of flooding the engine with an over rich mixture of gas.
lf you should by accident flood the engine, open the throttle and with the choke rod in normal position, turn the engine over a few times to exhaust the rich gas.
Hope this helps
Ian
Before Starting the Engine
Be sure the gear shift lever is in neutral position, i. e., the position in which it can be moved freely from side to side.
Advance the throttle lever located under the steering wheel (right hand side) about three notches, or until the accelerator pedal moves slightly downward.
Pulling down the throttle lever or pressing on the accelerator pedal, controls the quantity of gas entering the cylinders, and regulates the Figure t speed of the engine.
Place the spark lever (left hand) at the top of the quadrant (the notched quarter-circle on which the lever is operated). This is the retard position. T he spark lever regulates the timing of the spark which explodes the gas in the cylinders. Always retard the spark lever when starting your car. Starting the engine with the spark advanced may cause the engine to kick back, and damage the starter parts.
After the engine is started, advance the spark lever about half way down the quadrant.
Starting the Engine
1. Release the lock cylinder by turning the switch key to the right as described on Page 6.
2. See that the spark lever is retarded; the throttle lever advanced three or four notches on the quadrant and the gear shift lever in neutral position.
3. If the engine is cold, turn the carburetor adjusting rod one full turn to the left to give it a richer mixture for starting. This rod serves both as a choke for starting and as an enriching adjustment. Next pull back the rod, at the same time pressing down on the starter button with your foot. The instant the engine starts, withdraw your foot from the starter button and release the choke rod, next advance the spark lever about half way down the quadrant.
When the engine warms up, turn the adjusting rod back to the right. Never drive continuously with adjusting rod more than ~turn open. (See Adjustment of Carburetor, Page 24.)
When starting a warm engine, do not pull back the choke unless the engine fails to start on the normal mixture as there is a possibility of flooding the engine with an over rich mixture of gas.
lf you should by accident flood the engine, open the throttle and with the choke rod in normal position, turn the engine over a few times to exhaust the rich gas.
Hope this helps
Ian
whirnot
Well-known member
I agree, I turn the engine over and pull the choke, immedialtely pushing it back in. Starts every time even in single digit weather.
BlueSunoco
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Yes to the choking, same here. When we first started out we were using the choke way too much. Only need to pull the choke out for two or three revolutions that's it.
Don't need to use it at all on a warmed up motor. This is on a properly tuned engine.
A Model A Ford is a LOT easier to start than an early V-8 in my opinion. Our '36 is pretty tempermental a lot more so than the Model A ever thought of being
Don't need to use it at all on a warmed up motor. This is on a properly tuned engine.
A Model A Ford is a LOT easier to start than an early V-8 in my opinion. Our '36 is pretty tempermental a lot more so than the Model A ever thought of being
dave in australia
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I posted this 2 years ago, but it's still relevant today, and into the future. Also, this is for a RHD model A.
1. As is always important, open the door and get in.
2. Get back out, go back to the house, retrieve the ignition keys, go back to the shed and get back in the car.
3. Place key in ignition, turn on.
4. Check that it is in neutral.
5. Open GAV one turn.
6. Ensure spark and throttle levers are up.
7. Pull up choke rod.
8. Guide foot through and around clutch pedal and hand brake lever.
9. Place foot on starter.
10. Swear, then bend across to L/H side, lift up floor covering and battery hatch and turn on battery.
11. Sit up, and get foot past clutch pedal, hand brake lever again.
12. Press foot on starter.
13. After two warumps, release choke and away it fires.
14. Turn in GAV to set a good pucka-ticka idle.
15. Place foot on clutch, slide it into reverse.
16. Back out of shed and get half way down drive.
17. Swear again, reach under tank and turn fuel on.
18. It's warm enough, so get your foot back past clutch pedal and hand brake lever.
19. Just touch the starter.
20. It fired right up, get out, close shed, get back in, drive, enjoy and smile.
1. As is always important, open the door and get in.
2. Get back out, go back to the house, retrieve the ignition keys, go back to the shed and get back in the car.
3. Place key in ignition, turn on.
4. Check that it is in neutral.
5. Open GAV one turn.
6. Ensure spark and throttle levers are up.
7. Pull up choke rod.
8. Guide foot through and around clutch pedal and hand brake lever.
9. Place foot on starter.
10. Swear, then bend across to L/H side, lift up floor covering and battery hatch and turn on battery.
11. Sit up, and get foot past clutch pedal, hand brake lever again.
12. Press foot on starter.
13. After two warumps, release choke and away it fires.
14. Turn in GAV to set a good pucka-ticka idle.
15. Place foot on clutch, slide it into reverse.
16. Back out of shed and get half way down drive.
17. Swear again, reach under tank and turn fuel on.
18. It's warm enough, so get your foot back past clutch pedal and hand brake lever.
19. Just touch the starter.
20. It fired right up, get out, close shed, get back in, drive, enjoy and smile.
dave in australia
Well-known member
Even worse in my Durant. I have to get out, lift the bonnet to turn the fuel on under the vacuum tank.
theHIGHLANDER
Senior Member
They all have their "secret handshake" which is part of the A experience. Mine has a Tilly carb on it and I need to hear 3-4 turns of the starter (the growl as it rotates) and let go of the choke for it to start. If it's below 40deg maybe 6 growls and I need more from the GAV at first. The throttle lever just barely moving the foot pedal is a key ingredient to having it catch and stay running. Within a minute or less (depending upon temp) you can push the throttle lever up and it idles on it's own. Again, that's part of each car's secret handshake. I let mine run with the spark fully up for about 2-3min for the fastest warm up too.
jojofilo88
Member
Hahahah! I definitely agree with 10 and 17! Sometimes I remember to do both of those but forget to turn the key (pretty embarrassing)! Starting a Model A is much more complicated than driving a new car but once you pause for a minute you always remember what the problem is and laugh at yourself. It's much better to have one of those happen and then easily correct it, instead of actually having an issue with the car!
BlueSunoco
Well-known member
Steps 10 and 17 are also good theft prevention!
The beater A my uncle pulled out of a grove and gave to me 55 years ago required an additional step about 3/4 of the time: Turn off ignition, place trans in high gear, get out of the car and rock it backwards to free jammed starter drive. The ring gear teeth were almost gone at the two spots where the engine always stopped. I learned to shut the engine off with the trans in gear, clutch down and foot on the brake, then let the clutch up just before the engine stopped. This usually left the ring gear in a position where there were good teeth so it wouldn't jam the next time.