Started removing the rear axle & torque tube

[CC33]

Today I started removing the rear axle to correct the fluid leak. I did have some help with this job though. It's always nice to have a helper.

 

[mfagan]

Good for you! Help is always nice....

 

[Macdozer]

very cool

 

[Old Ford Addict]

Two questions
Are you nine feet tall ?
Did you tell them you hid the visa car in the X member?

 

[Vic Piano]

Wow, I wish all my "helpers" looked that good...

 

[B-O-B]

You could have at least provided a cardboard creeper or a blanket.

 

[Heard]

I'm bettin' that axle is still under the car.

 

[CC33]

i'm bettin' that axle is still under the car.

lololol

 

[CC33]

OK, axle assembly is out and torque tube slid off the driveshaft. There was grease from the bell all the way down the driveshaft to where the wishbone connects. Also gear oil in the tube. It appears the the grease seal behind the roller bearing sleeve needs to be replaced.
Just so I have this right, does the roller bearing get punched out from the opposite end, then the roller bearing sleeve is removed?
Tried to post pics on Photobucket and Youtube but some error kept coming up.

 

[JM 35 Sedan]

I thought this previous post pretty well covered your question:
http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125396&highlight=front+torque+tube+bearing

Would it be possible to get your helpers to my place to help me get my '35 5w coupe back together?

 

[scooder]

You said you had a helper. Whichever one is the helper, you got some good legs!
Could have made it easyer for us and kept your work boots on.
Martin.

 

[CC33]

Problem solved. I made up a tool like the one shown in the video. After several attempts the bearing sleeve came out. Then worked on removing the grease seal.There was way too much grease in the tube. (Bad seal)

http://s397.photobucket.com/user/lo...oval/IMG_0153_zpsd7c2b528.jpg.html?sort=2&o=0

 

[Mart]

There was a debate on here about which way round that seal goes. It wants to be orientated so as to keep the grease in the uj area.

I only ever changed one of those once, a good few years ago and I must admit I put mine in the other way round. I set it so as to keep the oil in the axle/torque tube.

I was just wondering which way round yours was/is?

Mart.

 

[JM 35 Sedan]

I usually replace all three of those seals when I have the rear out for gear change or rebuild. All three are the same pn. More than likely the other two inside the axel housings, on the wheel bearing ends, are also bad.

 

[Mr. Will]

OK, axle assembly is out and torque tube slid off the driveshaft. There was grease from the bell all the way down the driveshaft to where the wishbone connects. Also gear oil in the tube. It appears the the grease seal behind the roller bearing sleeve needs to be replaced.
Just so I have this right, does the roller bearing get punched out from the opposite end, then the roller bearing sleeve is removed?
Tried to post pics on Photobucket and Youtube but some error kept coming up.

I just finished up this job on my 35' Coupe. I bought 2-sections of 3/4" X 3' black iron pipe, 1-3/4" close nipple, 2-3/4" couplers, 1-3/4" pipe cap & 1-3/4" X 1" bell. I put the 2-3' sections together using the coupler with the pipe cap on the other end to protect the threads. Then the other coupler on the end with the close nipple in it. Then stuck it in the torque tube using the close nipple to guide its way into the opening in the old seal until it bottomed out on the coupler. Then simply hit the end with the pipe cap a few times with a hammer and out came the seal pushing the bearing sleeve with it. To reinstall the new seal I used the 3/4" X 1" bell. I also used the same bell to install the axle bell seals.

 

[CC33]

There was a debate on here about which way round that seal goes. It wants to be orientated so as to keep the grease in the uj area.

I only ever changed one of those once, a good few years ago and I must admit I put mine in the other way round. I set it so as to keep the oil in the axle/torque tube.

I was just wondering which way round yours was/is?

Mart.

The lip on the seal was facing the u-joint.

 

[Lawrie]

You want to have a look at the fit of the four fitted bolts that hold the U/J bell onto the rear of the gearbox,mine had .030 wear in them.
I made up four new ones and reamed the holes to .500
Lawrie

 

[CC33]

I usually replace all three of those seals when I have the rear out for gear change or rebuild. All three are the same pn. More than likely the other two inside the axel housings, on the wheel bearing ends, are also bad.

No leak has been seen at the axles, so I am hoping that those are ok. The axle disassembly might be more than I want to take on. Just received the seal and gasket set from Mac VP, the custom seal from Bruce's Rod Shop is on the way.

 

[CC33]

Here are some additional pictures of the torque tube repair for the oil leak. The gear oil would flow through the tube towards the u-joint. No rake to the car, bone stock. With the axle on jack stands, as shown in the first picture, oil would flow out the bottom when the axles were rotated.

 

[CC33]

To remedy this, I purchased Bruce's Rod Shop Torque Tube Adapter. This has a grease seal which snugly fits over the driveshaft, just inside the driveshaft pin. Hopefully this will keep the gear oil out of the tube.