STA-BIL Ethanol Treatment

duffer

duffer

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Just saw STA-BIL Ethanol Treatment while watching tv.Is this some good stuff to get the ethanol out of our gas for our Model A .Has anyone used this?
 
Sure won't harm anything. I have been using regular Stabil for years and have not had any negative ethanol related problems.
 
duffer said:
Just saw STA-BIL Ethanol Treatment while watching tv.Is this some good stuff to get the ethanol out of our gas for our Model A .Has anyone used this?
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I don't think it is used "to get the ethanol out of our gas" but rather it is used to prevent the water from seperating out of the fuel and causing problems.
 
The original STA-BIL wasn't working with gas with ethanol, but I've heard they have a new formulation that should work with ethanol. It doesn't remove the ethanol, but is meant to keep the gas usable for a longer storage time. Gas with 10% ethanol goes bad after a month or so, where the good gas from the 80's and back could be stored for years and still work. Sea Foam is also a good product to use with the corn crap gas.
 
I've used Stabil in my Model A before and I wasn't too impressed. Seemed to gum up my carb and that tank always ran a little rough until I got a fresh tank of gas in. Now I just put in a can of Seafoam, gas seems to stay good and no more gum in my carb!
 
ken ct said:
I prefer Seafoam also. ken ct.
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I was using stabil until I took my backup 10 hp power generator in for servicing and now only use Seafoam. The carburetor had to be rebuilt and the repair shop had nothing good to say about Stabil, and highly recommended Seafoam.
 
Briggs & Stratton makes a product called "Fresh Start" and claim that it will maintain gas for up to 24 months, I do not believe Sta-bil claims it's product to keep gas for anywhere near that amount of time.
 
I've used Sta-Bil now & then mostly over winter. Nice thing is they've got this cool container with 2 necks. One is marked in ounces. Take off the smaller cap & squeeze to get a measured ounce & pour that into tank. I re-use this to add 1/2 oz. Marvel Mystery Oil to each gallon of 10% ethanol... helps negate the corrosive nature of ethanol. Have also used Seafoam in the Vespa. Didn't know about the Sta-Bil problems.
Not sure if everyone is aware of this site... www.pure-gas.org
Is a list of currently 5888 stations that sell non-ethanol blended gas in USA & Canada.
 
Here we go again...

I've been posting this for years (most recently in July of this year), and I've heard from "A' owners of all ages who agree.

Take it or leave it, believe it or not... it works.

Here's a (slightly updated) repeat of a post of mine from an old "Do A's tolerate Ethanol..." thread. I still swear by it. MMO and Star Tron are two of my six steps to coping with ethanol:

"In prior threads here and on the old Barn I shared my experiences with creeping neoprene goo after E-5 appeared in New England. I'm not going to cover old ground; we've all heard about how the fuel separates, evaporates, turns to corn syrup, dissolves neoprene, etc., etc.

Cutting to the chase, the following formula has given me four (SEVEN as of 2011!) consecutive years of driving without a single fuel-related problem... E-5, E-10, 87, 89, 91 Octane, whatever:

1) HARD Neoprene gauge float, NOT CORK.
2) CORK gauge gaskets, NOT NEOPRENE.
3) MMO added to gas, per manufacturer's instructions.
4) Star Brite "Star Tron" (the blue stuff) added to gas, also per
manufacturer's instructions.
5) Run carb dry at the end of each day.
6) The on-board computer (driver) needs to adjust the spark and
GAV "to taste." (The car's taste, that is.)

There, I said it; take it or leave it, it works for me.

Whether it's a day, a week, or a month between starts, the "A" starts first time, every time. (As do my lawn mowers and snow blower, on the same fuel diet, no matter how long the fuel sits.)"
 
When I am ready to let my car sit for the winter, I drain the tank and then put 5 gallons of av gas in. Av gas will sit for a couple years without going bad.
The drain gas is handy for washing parts.
 
I would be careful about some of the stations on the pure-gas list. I went to a listed station near my house. It was near several boat launches so it made sense that they would sell non ethanol gas. I asked the attendant before filling up and they said that they only sell 10% ethanol gas. He also told me that another station on the list used the same delivery truck that he does and only sells ethanol gas. I was really dissapointed as there are no other stations close to my house. They were both Pure Stations. Has anyone else had this experience?
 
I've never heard of Star Tron , what does it do? how much do you use ?
I also went down to my local boat gas station here in michigan because i saw on line they had ethanol free gas...same thing the attendant said it wasn't true...10 percent ethanol How many boaters out there think they are getting it too?
 
Star Tron (blue), in my experience, keeps ethanol from separating and sinking to the bottom of a container of E-5, E-10 or E-15 gas. As our "A" carbs "drink" from the bottom of the tank, that's a beautiful thing.

I understand that Star Tron predates Sta-Bil's blue product, which came out after Sta-Bil realized that their old pink product was useless with ethanol. I was introduced to Star Tron by friends in the marine trades... men and women who rely on their vessels year-round or who store large amounts of fuel over the winter.

The product is available at any marine supplier and/or on-line. Here in the coastal East, it's also appearing in hardware stores and power equipment dealers.

I know that everyone has an opinion on this.. we're all at different altitudes, temperatures, humidities, etc... but I'm only sharing what works for me... in my "A", my mowers, my snow blower and my emergency jerry cans. Eight years now without a glitch.

And... if you ever read the posts on the old FB, I'm the guy who saw a neoprene gas gauge gasket turn to black peanut butter, totally obscuring the gas gauge, after four months' exposure to the fumes of E-5. Hence the other tips in my post.

That's my formula and I'm sticking to it:)
 
I second the Startron, it has a great reputation in the Marine industry, and my local marina sells gas with Startron in it, it says it right on the sign at the pumps. I would highly recommend for long term or winter storage.

I have never used seafoam for storing fuel, but I will say it is great product for solving minor carb issues caused by bad gas gumming them up. I have resolved several motorcycle issues using it as directed. Probably the best one product solution to run during the driving season because it will continually clean the fuel system and maintain the fuel.
 
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