Spare tire lock

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Knoxville9

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I had to have my lock drilled out that holds the hub cap on my spare tire because I never had the keys and I needed it off. Now I need to locate a new one or a new way to hold it on anyone have a lead?
 
It would help if you would list the year of the vehicle and body style, passenger car or utility...
 
If you have been successful in extracting the old cylinder from the carrier/sleeve assembly, I have a NOS Hurd cylinder available (with "football" shaped OEM Hurd key and key code tag). $30.00 including the shipping. Check my personal page for info.
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FlatHeadCoupe
 
The 37 pickup does not have the spare on the rear fender; the spare mounts in front of the right rear fender and there is no cutout or anything on the 37 pickup to accomodate a spare.
 
I would assume that "Knoxville9" intended to say that the spare tire is mounted in front of the right rear fender, on the running board, where there is is slight depression in the RB for the tire to rest into.
 
blucar said:
I would assume that "Knoxville9" intended to say that the spare tire is mounted in front of the right rear fender, on the running board, where there is is slight depression in the RB for the tire to rest into.
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You know what you do when you assume don't you? LOL I reckon you are correct, I know old and tired is. LOL
 
blucar said:
I would assume that "Knoxville9" intended to say that the spare tire is mounted in front of the right rear fender, on the running board, where there is is slight depression in the RB for the tire to rest into.
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Yes you would be correct. I would like to have an original lock but if locating one is not easy I want to make a knob of sorts to hold the hubcap over the spare just for aesthetics.
 
Many years ago I restored a '37 pickup.. Ended up parting out three of them to get the parts to rebuild one.. My brother had a very nice '36 pickup, which were quite similar to the '37's.. Same wheels, hub caps, rear fenders and '35 style of external horns..
I can clearly recall the spare tire locking "bail/band" that extended over the tire, being attached to the frame mount, then the cap, via a interlocking link.
As I recall the cap, which is shaped more like a 10" "frying pan", in lieu of a '36-37 hub cap, was locked to the tire mount utilizing a recessed lock that was very similar, if not the same as the '36 passenger car tire locks..
The '36 spare tire locks appear on eBay on a regular basis..
 
Knoxville...The 37 pickup used the same frying pan looking spare tire lock that the 36 pickup used with the same stainless center cap as the 36 Deluxe passenger car. The lock cylinder is the same on the 36/7 pickup locking spare as the lock cylinder used on the 36 Deluxe passenger car locking spare and possibly others. If you are going to use the frying pan looking locking spare cover I have a few NOS Hurd locking spare lock cylinders left as well as a couple of the complete locking spare frying pan setups with NOS lock cylinders and polished stainless. They are already packed up for the swap meet in Fletcher, NC just south of Asheville that will be July 4-5. The meet used to be in Maggie Valley, NC but moved several years ago. I do not know if you go to that meet, but is is not too far from Knoxville, and the Fletcher meet (put on by the Mountaineer Antique Auto Club for many years) is just south of I-40 off I-26 Exit 40 at the Western NC Agriculture Center near the airport...you cannot miss it. I usually bring a variety of 35-39 pickup parts...mostly small parts these days although I might bring a pair of rear fenders to the meet.
 
This is what the lock cylinder looks like that you are looking for. It is what is used for 1936 passenger car spare tire lock, also 1936 37,38 and 1939 Ford pickup spare tire lock.
 

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Your lock is for ignition switch, not spare tire. Spare tire lock is shorter and fatter if I remember correctly.
 
Lawson Cox said:
Your lock is for ignition switch, not spare tire. Spare tire lock is shorter and fatter if I remember correctly.
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Put your glasses on and look closely at the back side of the lock cylinder, there are two small tines that are unique to the spare tire lock. The ignition lock cylinder has a small circular round offset that moves the steering column lock. If these cylinders are wrong for pickup spare tire lock, I have been selling the wrong one for the last 39 years of selling NOS parts and will need to make some refunds.
 
I will be needing the entire lock not just the cylinder after destroying my old one drilling it out. But thank you I will continue my search.
 
Knoxville9...I probably have a complete assembly in the parts bin...the lock, the receiver for the lock, the spring, C-clip, set screw, and the metal cup like piece for the pickup locking spare...the metal cup like piece is not the same as the passenger car one. I will not be able to check until coming back from the Fletcher NC swap meet. If you do not find one by Sunday or so, I can be reached by pm here or scardilla77034@yahoo.com
 
Knoxville, I don't understand why you would need the complete assembly if all you did was drill out the lock cylinder. What happened to the rest of your spare locking parts as shown in these photos? You didn't use a sledge hammer to swat a mosquito and ruin parts beyond your lock cylinder. Even when the lock cylinder was removed you would have to use a tool to get the brass dogs shown to retract, they are spring loaded in the lock position. There are two sizes of the locking assembly, one is longer than the other, I can't remember which one is for the car and which length is for the truck. The longer one has an extension slug inside the assembly so that the same lock cylinder can be used for both. The two lock assemblies shown are the same length, check the dimension shown with your remnants. Also look closely at the set screw it fits very tightly into the lock cylinder, it doesn't come to a point like most set screws. Wait for Oldandtired to return from his swap meet he is very knowledgeable about these locks and 1937-1939 Commercial vehicles. My lock cylinders are not for sale I plan to have them placed in my casket.
 

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nospartsman is correct the pictured locks are as he described. On a side note and with all due respect to nospartsman....please don't have your locks placed in your casket... we are only caretakers of these cars and parts that we love. Everyone will be better served if you make arrangements to pass them on when you ...pass on. May you live a long and healthy life but please don't bury your parts with you and they are lost for all eternity.
 
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