Skip's pumps

Fourdy

Fourdy

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I just read Skip's face page and noted for the first time that he states:
"super turbine impeller on 37 - 48 type pumps"
"new improved high volume impeller on 32 - 36"

49 - later not mentioned. Does that mean my late waterpumps did not get the benefit of "improved flow"?

Fourdy
 
I had my 51 pumps rebuilt by Skips the impeller was different than my
originals the new design pumps more coolant per hour or minute
 
Lenny51 said:
I had my 51 pumps rebuilt by Skips the impeller was different than my
originals the new design pumps more coolant per hour or minute
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Lenny, just curious how you were able to verify more flo? I would like to check mine.

Fourdy
 
Ol' Ron said:
I wonder if you can get the truck pumps with narrow belt pulleys.??
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I have spoken to Skip about this exact subject. He says it is no problem, but the figure he quoted me was eye opening. I have a lot of late model pumps of both kinds, but no press. I am thinking of buying a shop press. If you think about it, it shouldn't be a difficult task.
 
tubman said:
I have spoken to Skip about this exact subject. He says it is no problem, but the figure he quoted me was eye opening. I have a lot of late model pumps of both kinds, but no press. I am thinking of buying a shop press. If you think about it, it shouldn't be a difficult task.
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That's what I did.
 
The only problem is getting the sheaves on/off without bending or breaking them. I had to convert Truck pumps to narrow sheaves for the EAB that came in my truck.
 

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Ol' Ron said:
I wonder if you can get the truck pumps with narrow belt pulleys.??
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Skip can put whatever pulleys you want on. It would be best if
you can supply the pulleys, new pulleys are about $30.00 each.
The guys that did their own still have the stock impellers and
don't get the better cooling benefit of almost tice the coolant
circulating through the system. It's not just a simple rebuild
job to install the turbine impellers. The body of the pumps are
machined in the lathe to make a 22% seat for the turbine
impeller. When the pump is assembled a close tolerance
clearance is maintained between the impeller and the new
seat. This is how more flow is produced compared to the old
paddle wheel type impeller just sitting in water spinning it's
wheel and pumping air.. He also installs a hard SS shaft and
modern seals. Plus you can not get a better guarantee
anywhere. G.M.
 
I think there are some things it pays to DIY and some things it pays to pay someone to do it. This is one of the jobs it pays to have it done right.

Taking out a leaky pump once everything is install is not a hard job, but its a job you want to avoid the first time around.

Just my two cents.
 
G.M. said:
.....the better cooling benefit of almost tice the coolant circulating through the system.
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Your statement, if taken literally, implies that the number of quarts of water has ALMOST DOUBLED in the system. I'm guessing that your statement would be more accurate if it read something like....."benefit of almost twice the rate of flow of the coolant circulating through the system", though I could be full of it! DD
 
With all due respect, i haven't gotten an answer to my question as to whether the late model pumps have the special turbine since the ad does not state so. Does anyone know?

Thanks,
Fourdy
 
Fourdy,
It's best to ask the man himself I'd have thunk.
For your information, the later 8BA style pumps already have a proper impeller style doings. Not like the earlier flat paddle type. And do pump water at an already crazy amount. No need to gild that Lilly in my opinion.
But like I said, see what skip says.
Martin.
 
if the pumps send water thru the radiator too fast there is a loss of heat exchange..think about that..thermostats impede the water flow to allow water to cool while in the radiator...not really rocket science....water screaming thru the poorly design flattie @ 70 mph is a no no.statts wide open,,no heat exchange,,engine will bump 212 july hot...I'm done with that..
 
krackerjack1951 said:
if the pumps send water thru the radiator too fast there is a loss of heat exchange..think about that..thermostats impede the water flow to allow water to cool while in the radiator...not really rocket science....water screaming thru the poorly design flattie @ 70 mph is a no no.statts wide open,,no heat exchange,,engine will bump 212 july hot...I'm done with that..
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Boy, you better stand-by and brace yurself for an edumacation from the "x-perts" on thermodynamics........while I get some popcorn cooked-up! DD
 
V8COOPMAN said:
Boy, you better stand-by and brace yurself for an edumacation from the "x-perts" on thermodynamics........while I get some popcorn cooked-up! DD
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Oh man, you nailed it! Just wait until GM sees that post! This is gonna get fun! I am going to pop a large bowl of popcorn and like you, sit back and enjoy.

I used to rebuild my pumps - it's easy. A number of years ago, I found it more cost effective to have Skip (George) do them for me. I gotta say, I have had Skip build numerous pumps for me to date. Each and every one has performed flawlessly. Great guy and great workmanship. No question about that.

Now, did any of his pumps make a bit of difference of operating temperature on any engine I'd installed them upon? Nope, not a one.
Keep in mind, every engine I rebuild, I rebuild properly. I also rebuild each radiator properly and no doubt restrict the flow somewhat by installing 155f thermostats in all engines.

Nope, never found the need for "super magical high volume impellers" nor "Water Wetter", nor "Purple Ice". Never found the need for an overflow tank and / or pressure valve. Not even a 4# cap...

Oops, popcorn is done. Gotta go.
 
kracerjack 1951, is right on. slow it down and cool it down. I run v8-60 in race car ran 240 all the time until I learned how to slow the flow of water down. on hot days never runs over 190 think about what kracerjack said
 
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