Sediment bowl

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yellowfever

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I have just started to work on my 23 T. I have cleaned and sealed the gas tank and ran into a stuck sediment bowl shut off valve with a broken handle. I have looked everywhere for a handle but have not been able to find one. the only thing I have been able to find is replacement sediment bowls.
Does anyone know where I can find a shut off valve handle?
Being new to working on Model Ts, I am in the learning curve.
Thanks for any help.
DR
 
just leave the handle in the open position and add a shut off valve at the output and one by the carb.
By the way, even if you can find the valve/handle you will need to fit it to the sediment bulb. It will need to be lapped to fit and seal.
 
I'm just guessing but I think that is going to be a long search. Can a bit of brass be brazed onto the end to make it work again? After all it is quite hidden from view and it's only real purpose is to clean the screen anyway. A daily use shut off should be at the carb as Red says. If it's hidden you won't use it.
 
Ol' Hank Ford was the fore runner of using Pacific rim forced labor with CNC machining to make these little parts. Chung Yuang made them by the millions! LOL

Take the bulb off so you can work on it. Get a piece of brass and turn it to shape on the lathe to duplicate the broken one , lap it in place so the seats are good, then gently, heat and bend the right angle on the the handle, OR make a new handle and braze it onto the tapered valve plug. ( In the industry that's a valve gag BTW).
Picture some guy in Detroit making a thousand of these an hour on a manual lathe. Its either this, or leave the valve open with a 1/4 turn ball valve in addition to the carb shut off that everyone should have anyway! ws
 
Thanks for the help on the shut off valve handle.

Another issue came up with the sediment bowl screen. What is the best way to replace the screen. The one I have has a hole in it. I read somewhere that the screen was soldered on. I tried to heat it and remove it, but the heat from my propane torch did nothing. Any suggestions is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
 
Just a couple of comments. I don't think you will find a handle that will give good results. It will have to be fitted to the body and even then, most likely it won't shut off dead tight. These bowls show up on e-bay all the time. I would get one that has a handle that will move. I did buy a sediment bowl with a stuck handle and I put penetrating oil and mystery oil in the opening and let it sit for months. Amazingly one day it just started to move! Even so, it will need a lot of lapping to make it useable. Ed
 
Here is an update. I have finished rebuilding the sediment bowl. Got a used shut off handle from an old sediment bowl, which the handle was frozen (not surprised). Used penetrating oil and heated it and it finally came loose. After cleaning and painting my sediment bowl, I installed the new used handle and lapped it starting with a 500 grit then used a 1000 grit and finally a polish. Hope it doesn't leak. To replace the screen, I finally wound up using a dremel tool to smooth out the lip for the screen. (I was not able to heat the solder and get the screen off. I heated the screen solder to red hot and the solder would not flow.) Then I soldered a new screen on, not a pretty solder join, but it makes the seal.
Thanks for all the suggestions and ideas. I would not have been able to do this without all the help.
 
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