Repairing a solid motor mount?

[rackops]

As I'm preparing all of the parts, pieces, and knowledge to restore my April 1928 Australian-built Phaeton, it occurred to me that I never looked at the motor mount.

Sure enough...the solid front motor mount was cut off at one point and a later mount was put in its place. I'm not sure why...maybe the mount cracked? The car was used to power a water pump on a farm near Perth in the 1950s, so perhaps that required some altering. Regardless, I need to repair the motor mount and restore it to the original configuration.

My question: has anyone attempted a mount repair like this before? I don't think it's impossible, but definitely plan on having someone more skilled in welding do the job for me. Thoughts?

Photos are of what it looks like now, and then a photo of another car (not mine) showing (red line) where my car's motor mount was cut off.

Thanks in advance for your opinions!

 

[Bruce of MN]

Can't help with your question, but what is that item to the right of the engine pulley in photo #3?

 

[Bob C]

Can't help with your question, but what is that item to the right of the engine pulley in photo #3?

Not sure what your looking at, all I see is a powerhouse generator and a water inlet pipe.

 

[J Franklin]

Cutting out the solid mount for replacement with the spring mount was a Ford fix in the Service Bullitens.

 

[gdmn852]

Hello, true Ford recommended the update to newer front engine mount but top half of solid frame mount had to be cut off to allow for the “cradle “ that was mounted to frame with one stud , with washer, spring and nut. Most restorers with drill out and riveted in a replacement front frame crossover to repair if there is issues with the crossmember.

 

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

My question: has anyone attempted a mount repair like this before? I don't think it's impossible, but definitely plan on having someone more skilled in welding do the job for me. Thoughts?


Thanks in advance for your opinions!

We have done it several times. I can post pictures if you like, but in a nutshell, fabricate the new tabs, then bolt them to the newer style yoke to ensure proper spacing and that the tabs being co-planer, -then clamp the tabs to the crossmember and weld them on. Grind and metalfinish the welds smooth and you are in business.

 

[Bob C]

It's interesting that Ford used the solid front mount on the 157" wheel base truck from 5/30 until 12/30.

 

[rackops]

We have done it several times. I can post pictures if you like, but in a nutshell, fabricate the new tabs, then bolt them to the newer style yoke to ensure proper spacing and that the tabs being co-planer, -then clamp the tabs to the crossmember and weld them on. Grind and metalfinish the welds smooth and you are in business.

Brent-

Thanks! That's along the lines of what I was thinking. I'm going to see if I can find an original cross member and see if it can be mated with what's there.

Luckily, I'm in no rush...glad I found this now so I can keep my eyes peeled as I collect parts for the restoration.

Dave

 

[jb-ob]

Ford had a service problem with a solid front motor mount.....to replace a timing gear, the entire engine needed to be lifted high enough to get the large timing gear past the front motor mount. (removing the rear motor mount bolts to bell housing etc., etc.)

A fun project, once was enough .

 

[Bruce of MN]

Not sure what your looking at, all I see is a powerhouse generator and a water inlet pipe.

I'm so used to the later generators that I forgot the powerhouse type, thanks.